El Rescate del Talisman

The Spanish Knightmare spin-off.
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el rescate del talisman

Post by knightmaredave » Thu Jan 03, 2008 6:58 pm

Sorry if theres a thread for this already.
i saw the episode on youtube an interesting version recently re broawdcast for the spanish channels 50th b day. theres a second one but the picture is black. i can do a bit of spanish but its difficult to keep up but it seems the dungeon master guides the final team person if they all die there isn't any death sequence but the rooms are quite interersting. Wonder what was with the later series they did it sounds more knightmare like
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Re: El Rescate del Talisman

Post by hindleyite » Tue Oct 27, 2009 9:10 pm

Don't know about you guys, but from the episode on YouTube, I think the music really puts a dampener on the whole thing for me. Foregoing my worse-than-poor knowledge of Spanish, which I suppose didn't help, the whole atmosphere just seems completely different from our Knightmare. Whilst the set was quite impressive and the rooms as slick as ever, it just isn't scary at all. The music is good-ish in that it's reasonably well composed, but it takes away a key element of Knightmare's success - its ability to make kids pee their pants in fear, and is just too jolly and unnatural sounding.

I have to say I prefer Labyrinthe.

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Re: Re:El rescate del talisman (Spanish version) Complete progra

Post by sozboz » Tue Oct 27, 2009 11:19 pm

sozboz wrote:Wow this is so cool. I really hate the music though, it kills the tension.

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Re: El rescate del talisman (Spanish version) Complete progr

Post by Canadanne » Fri Jul 29, 2011 8:15 pm

OK, I've never learned Spanish so I understand even less of this programme than the French one, but here's what I got from the episode on YouTube. Once again it'd be great if any Spanish speakers can help make sense of the rest.

I believe this is the first ever episode, hence the Magician's long speech at the beginning, presumably explaining what the programme's all about. He says something about how the Lord of Evil has stolen the Talisman. The team are called Roberto, Juan José, Marta and Mercedes.

They start in Brangwen's room, though I'm not sure what the Magician calls it (the chamber of something). I guess she tells the kid to pick up that scarf from the bench, for reasons which elude me, as he puts it down again after she's gone. She talks about different types of animal skin (tiger, seal, Astrakhan) and asks him "But what kind of animal is the Astrakhan?" - I think she adds that it's either a sea monster or a lamb. They answer "A lamb" and she says yes, "The Astrakhan is a lamb skin". Then she says something about the Ring of Salvation, which he picks up and puts in his bag.

Beardy Bloke creates the pit with the broken path, which the Magician calls "el paso de león" (the lion passage).

They meet Beardy Bloke again in the kitchen - he says something about the lion passage. Then he starts talking about mushrooms: "In the field, there were mushrooms of all kinds, all colours, all sizes - white, green. But God only chose the red with white [somethings]." Not sure about the next bit; then he says "A good friend or a bad friend?" They answer "A good friend" which is apparently wrong - he says something about "white with black [somethings]" being poisoned. Then he tells Roberto to give him the ring, "for my collection".

The Magician calls Morghanna's causeway "el pasadizo de la caverna" (the cavern passage) and says something about the flute on the cushion. Roberto steps off the path and disappears.

He's replaced by Juan José, who appears in the cave from the end of Level 2. The Magician says this dungeon is the domain of Tados (obviously based on the skeleton guy from Le Chevalier du Labyrinthe). I can only make out odd words and phrases that Tados mentions - "tombs", "immense monuments", "triangular form". He asks the kid a question and he correctly answers "Pyramids". Tados then gives him a handkerchief, says some more stuff including "solve the riddle", and sends him away.

They briefly wander through "el paso de la cascada" (the waterfall passage).

The Magician says they're in "la cueva de los enanos" (the cave of the dwarves, which is what they call goblins in this version), and that it's the home of the witch. I'm not sure how you spell the witch's name, which seems to be pronounced "Ura-oot". She says something about the dwarves, then mentions a handkerchief, so Juan José shows her the one Tados gave him, which makes her laugh. Then she gives him some sort of rhyming riddle, to which he answers "Tears" and seems to get it right. She sends him away past the "dwarves" at the back.

The next challenge is "la pasarela del foso" (the pit walkway). Note the phrase "un paso lateral a tu izquierda" (a sidestep to your left). About 20 seconds later, Juan José steps off the bridge when Mercedes tells him to turn right instead of left!

Marta takes his place, and finds herself in the throne room. The White Lady appears in the window and says something about the Lord of Evil.
Her first question relates to what Beardy Bloke told them in the kitchen: "What colour were the poisonous mushrooms that [something]?" Marta correctly answers "They were red with white [somethings]" and the first step appears.
The second question is about the object on the causeway where Roberto died, as I can make out "What [something] the cushion, the first emissary?" Marta incorrectly answers "A ring". The White Lady says something about the Lord of Evil, and they both disappear.
Mercedes picks up where Marta left off (guided by the Magician as there are no advisors left). The White Lady comes back, says "The answer was a flute" and creates the second step.
The third question is "Who accompanied the witch in her cave?" and again I can't make out the witch's name. Mercedes correctly answers "Four dwarves" and the third step appears.
She summons a king, who says something about the Talisman and the Lord of Evil, then tells her the magic word she needs to defeat him: NOSFERATU.

Once the king has gone, Mercedes sits on the throne and is transported to the villain's cave. The Lord of Evil approaches and tries to grab her, but she kills him by saying the magic word. He drops the Talisman, she picks it up and wins the game. She pulls a sword from a stone to release her kidnapped teammates, and they surround the Talisman and repeat the magic word to make their prizes appear on the table.

That seems to be the gist of it, but some extra detail would be nice!

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Re: El Rescate del Talisman

Post by Canadanne » Fri Jul 29, 2011 8:22 pm

I've also watched the episode on KM.com which seems to be from the third series, but I have to agree that one is virtually incomprehensible...

The Magician (now played by Beardy Bloke from Series 1) rambles on about something before summoning and dressing the team, whose names don't appear to be mentioned. He randomly asks the first emissary something about Don Quixote?? I notice they've had to change the style of helmet to match the new title sequence nicked from Knightmare. They also have an Eyeshield now, which is only used once in the whole episode, though interestingly it's an Eyeshield sequence we never saw on the British version.

The king from the throne room turns up at the beginning instead this time. I dunno what he's telling them in this scene, apart from the password for the Blocker (POLIFEMO). He also gives her an item before sending her out the same way she came in.

Between every scene, the Magician can be seen ranting hysterically or chatting with the advisors about god knows what.

The first emissary gets toasted in the fire cave, which is obviously more dangerous than the one in Knightmare. This appears to make the Magician cry, though I can't tell whether he's being sincere or sarcastic. The boy advisor volunteers to go in next.

A princess says something about a warlock. She asks them a couple of questions, but the only part I can make out is "For example, in ancient Greece..." He apparently answers correctly and she gives him some kind of garment.

A Blocker demands "la contraseña" (the password), which they provide.

They meet a jester who asks a question - they correctly answer "Olympia" and he gives them something. A pooka appears above the exit, the significance of which isn't clear, as it doesn't seem to worry anyone.

The jester leads them into another room and creates a pit with narrow paths across it.

The witch whose name sounds like "Ura-oot" asks them a couple of questions, then gives them a tabard or something.

A monk says something about Greece, Socrates and the Parthenon. He asks a question and they correctly answer "Athena". He gives them some sort of huge jug. (Note the dungeoneer is now carrying a total of five items - I wonder if there's any limit at all!)

They meet a frog prince and give him all five of their objects. He doesn't seem to give them anything in return, and they leave. What the hell?

In the throne room, they get all three of the White Lady's questions right. I think the first one is something to do with the princess they met, but I can't catch anything else. They don't summon the king this time, just sit on the empty throne.

On the Great Causeway, they have to spell out FOSO ("pit") and PASA ("pass").

As before, the Lord of Evil is defeated by saying some magic words, though I'm not sure what they are or when they learned them. (Maybe the frog guy told them??) They free their teammate, and the Magician conjures up some computers, then shouts at the viewers.

Could anyone actually follow what was being said in any part of that episode?

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Re: El Rescate del Talisman

Post by Canadanne » Sat Nov 03, 2012 2:23 am

Can't believe no-one has posted this yet - there are two new clips of El Rescate del Talismán on YouTube! How exciting. :) They're both from the first series - one complete episode and the second half of another. Wish I had a considerably better grasp of Spanish...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orqXw9AeUgI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rM82xsY6sKU

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Re: El Rescate del Talisman

Post by shadow6162 » Sat Nov 03, 2012 9:34 am

Thanks for these Annie, they were brilliant!

That kind of 'boss fight' at the end has brilliant music (along with the antechamber music at the start) but I keep laughing when the kids are just standing there like, "...please just stop with your random dancing and get over here." ;D

And that slow-motion fall at the end...I loved it!!! ;D
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Re: El Rescate del Talisman

Post by Canadanne » Sat Nov 03, 2012 5:33 pm

shadow6162 wrote:I keep laughing when the kids are just standing there like, "...please just stop with your random dancing and get over here." ;D
Yes, it's pretty hilarious how the so-called 'Lord of Evil' never seems particularly scary or powerful, just flails about laughing and waving the talisman in their face for no apparent reason! And there was me thinking the final encounters with Lord Fear were too easy... at least he actually had something to say for himself, and you couldn't make him fall over dead just by saying a word and poking him. :P

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Re: El Rescate del Talisman

Post by Canadanne » Sun Jul 19, 2015 5:48 pm

Oh wow, I've been wanting to see the third series of El Rescate del Talismán for ages! Someone finally found a recording of it. Featuring the Gandalf-like Treguard figure, purple woodland scenes, various new characters including a guy dressed as a tree and a Gundrada type, a Smirkenorff flight (yes, he even has the same name in the Spanish version!), a talking raven, the demonic new villain and his Lissard-esque sidekick, a Causeway (not entirely sure of the rules??), and lots of incongruous '90s dance music. They've also now introduced quests that last for more than one episode. It seems a LOT more watchable than the second series with the hysterical ranting host!

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Re: El Rescate del Talisman

Post by wombstar » Sun Jul 19, 2015 7:10 pm

How come I was giving a warning for posting a link to an episode, yet others are posting them freely in this topic?
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Re: El Rescate del Talisman

Post by Canadanne » Sun Jul 19, 2015 7:48 pm

wombstar wrote:How come I was giving a warning for posting a link to an episode, yet others are posting them freely in this topic?
Because the no-linking rule was only introduced recently, and those posts are older.

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Re: El Rescate del Talisman

Post by wombstar » Sun Jul 19, 2015 11:58 pm

The Devil version of Lord Fear is awesome, bit tight on a death animation on that causeway. real pity nobody has done any subtitles it'll probably be far more enjoyable knowing exactly what's going on.
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Re: El Rescate del Talisman

Post by Canadanne » Fri Feb 17, 2017 12:32 am

Just found a couple more clips of the third series, uploaded by one of the actresses (not sure if that makes them "official" and OK to link). They had annoying elves in the Spanish version too! Their names are Lindal and Ghendan, according to the actress' blog.

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Re: El Rescate del Talisman

Post by Mystara » Sat Feb 18, 2017 11:02 am

Sadly not, since the actresses don't own the rights :(
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