<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0"><channel><title><![CDATA[A good Vs Evil topic]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">A Mogdred/Lord fear topic.</p>
<p dir="auto">Anyway not sure what I'm trying to do with this post i guess looking for your comments on the Mogdred Lord fear relationship or connection.. if there is one,</p>
<p dir="auto">So was Lord Fear still running the dungeon over the 1st 4 seasons?   No spy glass to see what his up to, and even his 1st appearance in season 5 he still didn't appear in the game itself..</p>
<p dir="auto">Another thing i thought was very interesting, Mogdred doing the whole 'hand' thing in season 2..  (sounds like Lord fear has been teached by the master?)</p>
<p dir="auto">Mogdred also having alot more action in level 2 i thought was very odd,  We never got to see im in the 'flesh' all that much but he did make his presence felt a number of times which made him far more 'fighting'  We do tend to see alot of Lord fear but he doesn't really put much fear into the team,</p>
<p dir="auto">Mogdred speeches were far more effective that Lord fears hand. (not knocking the whle hand stuff)</p>
<p dir="auto">Mogdred was also knowing to try to disguise him self on a number of times...( as a monk?)  which reminded me of the whole debate we had in another post about was it Hordiss or lord fear  ( you know the one) So if Lord fear does indeed take after Mogdred then it's very possible we should have seen him in disguise,</p>
<p dir="auto">Has anyone took a look what the ring looks like on Mogdreds hand? does it look anything like the ones Lord fear has??   this could be a clue to a Mogdred/fear connection.   Not sure why Mogdred would need to require and assistance to guard the 3rd levels in seasons 3 and 4 i'm guess a double loss on the 2nd was just to much for him.</p>
<p dir="auto">And we can't for get that Mordred's goblins are indeed the same as Fears, Tiny was seen in season 3.. or do all Goblins look the same???</p>
<p dir="auto">So did Mordred step down after season 4 or did Lord fear defeat him?     Looking at this with Mogdread being the 'boss' of the dungeon, did make an appearance in the 1st season but Merlin say he had to be defeated..</p>
<p dir="auto">Hummmm  <img src="https://www.knightmare.com/forum/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f615.png?v=cbb8c768457" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--confused" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":-\" alt="😕" />   The only thing thay really keeps early knightmare and the 2nd stage together is in fact Treguard and maybe the original Helmet.  id like to think there so something in the same vain for the oppision,</p>
<p dir="auto">Only thing that comes to mind is, it was once</p>
<p dir="auto">Mogdred Vs Merlin, and now it's Treguard Vs Lord Fear,</p>
<p dir="auto">It was after all Merlin who wanted to stop Lord fear not Treguard...   Okay that enough rambling, hope it opens the doors for some good old coverstaion</p>
]]></description><link>https://www.knightmare.com/forum/topic/1014/a-good-vs-evil-topic</link><generator>RSS for Node</generator><lastBuildDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2026 00:24:50 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://www.knightmare.com/forum/topic/1014.rss" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"/><pubDate>Wed, 28 Apr 2004 02:05:03 GMT</pubDate><ttl>60</ttl><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to A good Vs Evil topic on Tue, 08 Jun 2004 22:42:45 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">I'm not sure John Woodnutt had much say in the matter in fact. Tim Child had wanted to get rid of the Merlin/Mogdred scenario for a while as it was too derivative, owed too much to Arthurian legend. I don't think there's any doubt that Lord Fear  -  or at least SOME kind of new arch-villain  -  would have been introduced for s5 even if John Woodnutt had been retained.</p>
]]></description><link>https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/25510</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/25510</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[HStorm]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 08 Jun 2004 22:42:45 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to A good Vs Evil topic on Tue, 08 Jun 2004 22:14:39 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">What would things be like if John Woodnut had decided to stay?</p>
<p dir="auto">Would there be no Lord Fear and no opposition or powers that be since the old Merlin and Mogdred thing would be around.</p>
]]></description><link>https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/25502</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/25502</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Wolfshead]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 08 Jun 2004 22:14:39 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to A good Vs Evil topic on Fri, 04 Jun 2004 01:01:43 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Referee. The Powers-That-Be still hadn't been named and the allegiances still hadn't been properly established at that point.</p>
]]></description><link>https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/25179</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/25179</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[HStorm]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 04 Jun 2004 01:01:43 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to A good Vs Evil topic on Thu, 03 Jun 2004 23:05:28 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Is Treguard the refereee in in Series 4 or the head of the powers that be?</p>
]]></description><link>https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/25171</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/25171</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Wolfshead]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 03 Jun 2004 23:05:28 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to A good Vs Evil topic on Sun, 30 May 2004 21:20:16 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">oh was this a season 4 thing?</p>
<p dir="auto">i can't remember</p>
]]></description><link>https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/24851</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/24851</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Purgatory]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 30 May 2004 21:20:16 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to A good Vs Evil topic on Sat, 29 May 2004 23:59:44 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">But... they DID have the eye-shield.</p>
]]></description><link>https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/24811</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/24811</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[HStorm]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 29 May 2004 23:59:44 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to A good Vs Evil topic on Sat, 29 May 2004 23:48:14 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">lol the skull in charge.... well it did show up guarding the quest object..</p>
<p dir="auto">Mogdred trying to get people to join the dark side was 'evil' enough..  and enjoyment on watching teams die (season 2)  and a death in season 4, (something Fear never did!!!!!</p>
<p dir="auto">As for evil...none of the characters were evil.. there actions may have been 'bad' but no one is going to site there are allow someone to take advantage of them or hurt them in anyway.   Fear wanted power,</p>
<p dir="auto">Doesn't matter of that was a spyglass or not.. there was no way the team could have used it without the eye shield.</p>
]]></description><link>https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/24809</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/24809</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Purgatory]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 29 May 2004 23:48:14 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to A good Vs Evil topic on Sat, 29 May 2004 23:08:02 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">No, I doubt it was a spyglass. I remember the dungeoneer at the time suggested it was a con, and I believe him. It might have been a magic glass of some kind, but I doubt it would have been of much use.</p>
<p dir="auto">The reason why I think Gumboil was probably in Mogdred's employ was because he was always demanding passwords and someone has to assign these things.</p>
<p dir="auto">And when Fatilla was referring to old skull face it was defnitely Mogdred he meant. Nobody else matched that description at all at the time (unless you're suggesting that one of the skull hauntings or a catacombite was in charge), and Lord Fear hadn't been invented back then. We all like our retro-active explanations for obscurities, but it's not necessary in this case.</p>
]]></description><link>https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/24803</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/24803</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[HStorm]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 29 May 2004 23:08:02 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to A good Vs Evil topic on Sat, 29 May 2004 22:57:03 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">I'm not sure really if Mogdred had mininions or was just part of the opposition.  Fatilla said he worked for old skull face, but I'm not so sure that was Mogdred.  Can't really say with Gumboil cos I havn't seen series 2 in 16 years.</p>
<p dir="auto">When i first saw Lord Fear I thought that he was head of the opposition all the time, but had never revealed himself, after all there had been no spyblasses before.</p>
<p dir="auto">Also I think it was interesting that one team were offered a magnifying glass by Merlin and he said that it was no ordinary magnifying glass.</p>
<p dir="auto">It could've been a spyglass, what would it show?</p>
]]></description><link>https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/24800</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/24800</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Wolfshead]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 29 May 2004 22:57:03 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to A good Vs Evil topic on Sat, 29 May 2004 14:27:57 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Well, Mogdred had minions as well like Fatiilla and Gumboil, but there just doesn't seem to be much evidence of Mogdred's vaunted power i.e. he always threatened but he rarely delivered.</p>
]]></description><link>https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/24746</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/24746</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[HStorm]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 29 May 2004 14:27:57 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to A good Vs Evil topic on Sat, 29 May 2004 13:44:27 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Very interesting.  I've never really considered how powerful Mogdred and Lord Fear were.</p>
<p dir="auto">I suppose Fear had more power in general becasue he had minions as well as magic.</p>
]]></description><link>https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/24743</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/24743</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Wolfshead]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 29 May 2004 13:44:27 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to A good Vs Evil topic on Sat, 29 May 2004 11:52:22 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">I think Treguard's reduced help for the teams was more about the lack of puzzles and serious obstacles in later years. He was giving hints all the time in the early years because there was a puzzle in almost every room back then. If you watch later seasons, a lot of locations were quite bare.</p>
<p dir="auto">I agree that Mogdred wasn't as powerful as Lord Fear, and certainly wasn't as powerful as he painted himself. Most of Mogdred's threat came from his ability to intimidate with his booming laugh, but he never did all that much harm actively. Mind you, he was able to restrain Treguard with just a thought, which is something Fear could never do, so we shouldn't write Moggy off altogether.</p>
<p dir="auto">As for who was the most evil, well that's a very subjective question. How do you quantify evil?</p>
<p dir="auto">Morghanna's magic killed dungeoneers on both her appearances, but then does that make her particularly evil or just powerful (or for that matter does it just make the teams in question careless)?</p>
<p dir="auto">Lillith would kill dungeoneers simply for not offering her an adequate present, but looking at her overall it's hard to say she was really evil, just petty and spiteful.</p>
<p dir="auto">On the whole, I'm not sure anyone was particularly evil in the series  -  the big-hitters all bad-mouthed a lot, but what evils were they actually committing? They only seemed to be harming the dungeoneers themselves, but why shouldn't they when the dungeoneers were setting themselves up as opponents in the first place?</p>
]]></description><link>https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/24737</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/24737</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[HStorm]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 29 May 2004 11:52:22 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to A good Vs Evil topic on Sat, 29 May 2004 08:51:12 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Lord Fear was the most evil. He may have had a sense of humour but he was always prepared to do harm (he told Lissard and Hands to go and hurt themselves often enogh!) He is also shown throughout the show with the Spy Glasses.</p>
<p dir="auto">I don't remeber Mogdred from the first time round, but he isn't as powerful as Fear - nor was he integrated into the story. He spent to much time trying to get dungeoneers over to the darkside. Also, his magic was weaker - there was a move away from traditional "spell casting" in the later years e.g. the use of latin words, Treguard used the staff not d-i-s-m-i-s-s, even dungeoneers tended to drink potions instead.</p>
<p dir="auto">I thought that Hordriss took over from Merlin as the Cheif of the Powers that Be - hence the presentation of the prizes.</p>
<p dir="auto">Treguard dosen't help the teams solve individual problems in the last few series like he did in 3/4 (he used to hint about what objects to use in each room: "Raise the alarm, team" meaing use the horn) but still hinted ("What did the scroll say?") Maybe it's just that clues were more subtle; they tended to come from dialogue with Pickle or Majida.</p>
]]></description><link>https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/24729</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/24729</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[HarveyTowers]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 29 May 2004 08:51:12 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to A good Vs Evil topic on Fri, 28 May 2004 22:14:03 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Which Knightmare villain was the most evil?</p>
]]></description><link>https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/24720</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/24720</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Wolfshead]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 28 May 2004 22:14:03 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to A good Vs Evil topic on Sun, 23 May 2004 23:28:13 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">I could take them both. Unless Magic and Staffs were used. But being in Staffs i would have a bit of help. <em>Awful Awful attempt at a pun. Bed-Time - Night All</em></p>
]]></description><link>https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/24190</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/24190</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Lowebo]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 23 May 2004 23:28:13 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to A good Vs Evil topic on Sun, 23 May 2004 23:17:40 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">I think Cedric was a bit cruder, and certainly much louder and more foul-tempered, but being an elf Elita was that bit cleverer.</p>
]]></description><link>https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/24189</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/24189</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[HStorm]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 23 May 2004 23:17:40 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to A good Vs Evil topic on Sun, 23 May 2004 23:06:36 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Who was rudest Cedric or Ellita?  Could Ellita beat him in a duel of insults?</p>
]]></description><link>https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/24186</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/24186</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Wolfshead]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 23 May 2004 23:06:36 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to A good Vs Evil topic on Sun, 23 May 2004 23:04:54 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">How about a fruitloop?</p>
]]></description><link>https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/24184</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/24184</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Lowebo]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 23 May 2004 23:04:54 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to A good Vs Evil topic on Sun, 23 May 2004 22:45:41 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Could Cedric be called evil or just crazy?</p>
]]></description><link>https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/24180</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/24180</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Wolfshead]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 23 May 2004 22:45:41 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to A good Vs Evil topic on Sun, 23 May 2004 22:38:12 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Spose... But still, Oakley wasn't evil... ok, not necessarily angelic either but at least he had a personality unlike most wall monsters - the doors do not bloody count!</p>
]]></description><link>https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/24176</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/24176</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Lowebo]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 23 May 2004 22:38:12 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to A good Vs Evil topic on Sun, 23 May 2004 22:32:33 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">^ but we was more then happy to kill them off if he needed.</p>
]]></description><link>https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/24174</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/24174</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Purgatory]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 23 May 2004 22:32:33 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to A good Vs Evil topic on Sun, 23 May 2004 22:30:01 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote>
<p dir="auto">Would you call the wall monsters (1-3) opposition or neutral, the same goes for Oakley.</p>
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<p dir="auto">Wall Monsters Neutral - They were just "there". Oakley was more on the PtB - didn't he help a dungeyperson once?</p>
]]></description><link>https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/24171</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/24171</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Lowebo]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 23 May 2004 22:30:01 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to A good Vs Evil topic on Sun, 23 May 2004 17:29:51 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">I think that she wasn't evil enough to be on the opposition, I mean she never tried to kill a dungeonere.  Hordris was more unpredictable by far.</p>
<p dir="auto">Regarding Elita, she's rude but she's not evil and since she is Smirkanauf's guardian she can't really be on the opposition.</p>
<p dir="auto">The Gatekeeper may not serve the powers that be, but he is not evil, he showed more favour to dungeoneres than the opposition.</p>
<p dir="auto">Sir Hugh de Witless was good, but he did not really want to help dungeoneres, he was constrained to rescue them.  Infact he could end a quest by rescuing them.</p>
<p dir="auto">How about a neutral section in the series guides?</p>
]]></description><link>https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/24124</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/24124</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Wolfshead]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 23 May 2004 17:29:51 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to A good Vs Evil topic on Sat, 22 May 2004 23:44:04 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">^ they them sections on the site a very in accurate.. over all Elita was indeed on the side of the good, Hence being the keeper of the Green Dragon,</p>
<p dir="auto">As for the witch.. she however much like early Hordiss in neutral.. i guess season 7 she was against lord fear but at the same time never on the side of good.</p>
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