Can't believe that the editors removed some, but not all, of the shouts of: "Oh my G_d!" from advisor Gideon during the fireball room. That woz rather naughty....

They tried to bargain with Stiletta before even introducing Daniel.

Encountered Brother Strange, who evidently needs to keep collecting proverbs coz he keeps forgetting the ones he already had.

Used their "FLOAT" spell in the trapdoor to level 2.

First appearance of Snapper-Jack and they did well. Not sure about this character yet.

Level 2 clue-room and we had the first sighting of Maldame, another would-be ally of LF.

A few thoughts and observations ( I think I'll do this all the time- if that's ok.... )

I've just noticed series 8 episodes are only twenty minutes long! - combine that with the massive spy glass scenes and there's hardly time for good old dungeoneering!

I loved Lord Fears risqué line re Stilleta 'She's got long legs and a couple of other striking features'

Gideon is ...... well lets just say I kept feeling really sorry for the other two advisors who clearly kept trying to contribute and couldn't get a word in.

The same goes for whenever Treguard and Majida were having their scripted banter, the advisors either ignored them or talked over them

What was the actual point of the Early warning horn?

Snapper Jack- Hmm, the actor tries his best (I think!) but fails to convince. Can I also add to the above posts that as far as I am concerned they got all 3 answers but he said they got 2...

I did enjoy the episode but very little actually happened !!!

Majida: "Without this Stiletta there's really no way out of Level 1, huh?"

Treguard: "Sadly not."

...One episode later...

Daniel: "Do you have any information about how to get out of Level 1?"

Stiletta: "Oh dear, no, that's not my line of work."

Danie: Too many cooks spoil the broth.

Brother Strange: No I've gott that one.

Daniel: Many hands make light work.

Brother Strange: A marvelous proverb Daniel!

Brother Strange's memory must be failing since he said he had BOTH of those in the last series! Interesting how two differenr teams selected the same two proverbs which apparently contradict each other.

Treguard: "Sadly not."

...One episode later...

Daniel: "Do you have any information about how to get out of Level 1?"

Stiletta: "Oh dear, no, that's not my line of work."

I liked it when Gideon was always going "Oh my God!" and "RUN RUN RUN!!!" XDDDDD

Ha ha ha, yeah! I was watching that episode the other day thinking: A Jewish boy saying "OH MY GOD" quite a few times :O.

I've therefore split those posts in to their own thread:

http://www.knightmare.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=2550

The latter editing I can certainly believe. But that's a different subject

I really doubt the team were told to calm down. From experience, the only direction we were given (at all) was in the final 'fixed' sequence of rooms on the way back to Treguard. In those rooms, they wanted us to be hyper and excited.

In any case, there were far more important things for people to be concerned with than the (editable) over excitement of a team. And not to mention, the team is the whole point of a game show. It wouldn't be much good if all of them were drab, boring and quiet!

That bit in particular made me laugh. I wonder if Gideon (main adviser dude, ya can't miss him) was told to calm down in between scenes - his voice started off quiet, but increased in volume as they got further through a room.

I think it's unlikely. They were always keen on people being enthusiastic rather than quiet.

Paul McIntosh's 1996 interview with Tim Child gives a different impression. Also quoted on Knightmare.com's Series 8 Teams pages, his response to being asked if he had 'one outstanding memory of Knightmare' was:

Probably the team of Jewish boys in the last series, who you may remember all came wearing their skull caps. They were all eleven, and became almost uncontrollably excited about their adventure! They became totally absorbed in what they were doing, and we had to think about toning the adventure down, just to calm them somehow! Worse still, was that Children's TV does not allow swearing or blaspheming in any show, so we had a lot of editing to do! We must have cut out about 200 "Oh God"s! (It was more like 2 dozen actually...)

That bit in particular made me laugh. I wonder if Gideon (main adviser dude, ya can't miss him) was told to calm down in between scenes - his voice started off quiet, but increased in volume as they got further through a room.

I think it's unlikely. They were always keen on people being enthusiastic rather than quiet.

He's probably just calmer because of the wait required between each room with nothing else going on. It's not like you just got to stand about on set watching things happen

... and a room where fireballs KILLED the tiles beneath Daniel (as one of the advisors said!)

That bit in particular made me laugh. I wonder if Gideon (main adviser dude, ya can't miss him) was told to calm down in between scenes - his voice started off quiet, but increased in volume as they got further through a room.

Also, skeletrons! My favourite character from way back when, though I seem to recall them being taller and a lot more threatening. Still, it is pretty cool when they explode, in't it?

Anyway Lord Fear was great in bothe Spy Glass sequences.

Level 2 just got alot more harder with Goth as it.

Remember, Play Your Cards Right... or else!!!

Lord Fear: I love it when you talk dirty to me.

(Or at least something similar!!)

I have to agree about the current Team, they are getting on my nerves. The kid in the middle does appear to be on the verge of fuse-blowing!!!

Personally these guy got on my nerves with their, "Oh God's"

Not getting out of Stilleta's way, asking for advice without introduction. And when they do get their plesantries out of the way, they urge her for advice again...

I thought that was rather cheeky don't you?

great settings, and don't we have two sections of level 3?

The skeleton things were great... looks like it was inspired from the life force, and the 'Iron maiden' is very smiler to malice in many ways,

Good Episode though, I did like the " Jump up and down on the trapdoor to get it open" quote

Whats up with Gideon, He keeps acting all excited, and looks like he is about to blow a fuse. Calm Down lad.

Good stuff so far, roll on tomorrow for more

Tom Tom the Pipers son, stole a pig and away he ran... It was probably as Gideon said, the Dodo one.

Oh well in that case they got all 3.

Because Dodo was the right ansrew.

So unless London Tower was wrong they gat a full sweep.

'You could give him the horn Daniel.'

How rude

Because I'm sure Tom The pipers son didn't steal a pig.

Liked the new recap bit at the start, and the CGI spellbook. I suppose the old Commodore Amiga status bar would have looked a bit out of place. Do you think Paul Valentine was ill/on holiday that day? The Sly Hands Spyglass bit would have been pre-recorded, and we never saw his face in the room with Stiletta, meaning a member of the production staff could have donned his costume and pretended to be him. They did it all the time in Doctor Who. Anyway, this team are now in Level 2, after a Spyglass sequence where LF and Lissard seemed to be playing Monopoly Knightmare Edition on an obviously empty table, and a room where fireballs KILLED the tiles beneath Daniel (as one of the advisors said!). In the trapdoor room we had Brother Strange...wasn't the riddle given the same one given by Barry in S7? Oh well. Goth's in Level 2 now, which makes things even harder, and Snapper Jack is a nice throwback to the 3 riddles characters of old. I'm not entirely sure how many they got correct- he said that you need to answer 2 correctly to get through, but I was under the impression that he got all three correct. Anyone know for sure?

Other good moments were where Stiletta does 'target practice' on Sylvester Hands, causing Hands to duck!

What was that game that Lord Fear and Lissard were playing in the spy-glass scene? Some dungeon version of Monopoly?

The ad break seemed a bit abrupt, interrupting Brother Strange just as he's going to open the trap door...

Was Snapperjack really that annoying when I saw it before? With Snapperjack, you can't really tell if the dungeoneer got a question right or wrong since he just says something like "Smart or not so smart". Should have said 'Truth accepted' or 'Falsehood' like the old wall monsters. You only find out at the end of the interrogation when he says "Two gets you through"/

Some classic lines today, including "The bells, lordness, the bells!" "Yes, if you hadn't noticed that's a BELFRY up there"

It says in the 'team interview' thing that they had to cut out about two dozen "Oh God"s, since CITV didn't allow swearing or blasphemy on any of their programmes. Yet I clearly heard Gideon saying "Oh God!" several times, especially in the fireball room!