<![CDATA[Knightmare Commentary Tracks]]>I'm planning to do a DVD-type feature, which is to create audio-commentary tracks for episodes of Knightmare. They can be played while watching the episode with the sound turned down. I'll make them downloadable from the Radio Drama site in MP3 form.

There's an awful lot of episodes of KM out there however, far too many for me to do entirely by myself, and in any case, I don't see why only my own perspective should be put forward. So if anyone who has a microphone would like to volunteer to do a commentary of their own, please let me know and tell me which episodes you'd like to do.

I'll do episode one of season one this weekend, as a way of testing whether the idea will be any good in practise.

]]>https://www.knightmare.com/forum/topic/1982/knightmare-commentary-tracksRSS for NodeSun, 13 Sep 2026 13:16:26 GMTSat, 10 Oct 2009 11:56:21 GMT60<![CDATA[Reply to Knightmare Commentary Tracks on Sat, 09 Aug 2014 17:27:34 GMT]]>

Here's another one (that I just recorded):

Knightmare Series 7 Episode 12 - Ross Thompson

Yay, new episode commentary! I love these.

]]>https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/47560https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/47560Sat, 09 Aug 2014 17:27:34 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Knightmare Commentary Tracks on Sat, 09 Aug 2014 15:32:23 GMT]]>Here's another one (that I just recorded):

Knightmare Series 7 Episode 12 - Ross Thompson

I can't see a way to either edit my above post or delete it and make a new one to add the commentary to the list.

]]>https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/47559https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/47559Sat, 09 Aug 2014 15:32:23 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Knightmare Commentary Tracks on Sat, 09 Aug 2014 11:30:56 GMT]]>For completeness (and to help if they all get uploaded to one place some time), here is a list of all the commentaries that have been recorded.

A star separates each commentary on the same episode.

Series 1

Episode 1 – Martin * Jake

Episode 2 – Andy & Alastair * Jake

Episode 3 – Jake

Episode 4 – Jake

Episode 5 – Jake

Episode 6 – Martin * Jake & Rosey

Episode 7 – Jake

Episode 8 – Martin * Jake & Rosey

Series 2

Episode 1 – Jake

Episode 2 – Jake

Episode 3 – Martin * Jake & Ross

Episode 4 – Jake

Episode 5 – Martin * Jake * Rosey

Episode 6 – Jake

Episode 7 – Martin * Jake

Episode 8 – Jake * Rosey

Episode 9 – Jake * Rosey

Episode 10 – Jake

Episode 11 – Jake

Episode 12 – Martin * Jake

Episode 13 – Martin * Jake

Episode 14 – Jake & Rosey

Episode 15 – Jake

Episode 16 – Martin * Jake

Series 3

Episode 1 – Martin * Jake

Episode 2 – Jake

Episode 3 – Jake

Episode 4 – Martin * Jake & Ross

Episode 5 – Jake

Episode 6 – Martin * Jake

Episode 7 – Martin * Jake

Episode 8 – Jake

Episode 9 – Martin * Jake * Rosey

Episode 10 – Jake & Rosey

Episode 11 – Jake * Rosey

Episode 12 – Jake

Episode 13 – Martin * Jake

Episode 14 – Jake

Episode 15 – Jake & Rosey

Episode 16 – Martin * Jake

Series 4

Episode 1 – Martin * Jake

Episode 2 – Jake & Rosey

Episode 3 – Jake

Episode 4 – Jake & Rosey

Episode 5 – Ricky * Jake

Episode 6 – Ricky * Jake

Episode 7 – Jake

Episode 8 – Jake

Episode 9 – Martin * Jake & Rosey

Episode 10 – Jake

Episode 11 – Jake & Rosey

Episode 12 – Jake & Ricky

Episode 13 – Jake

Episode 14 – Jake & Rosey

Episode 15 – Martin * Jake & Rosey

Episode 16 – Jake

Series 5

Episode 1 – Martin * Jake & Rosey

Episode 2 – Ricky * Jake

Episode 3 – Jake & Rosey

Episode 4 – Jake & Rosey

Episode 5 – Jake

Episode 6 – Jake

Episode 7 – Jake, Rosey & Ross

Episode 8 – Jake & Rosey

Episode 9 – Jake & Rosey

Episode 10 – Jake & Rosey

Episode 11 – Jake & Ricky

Episode 12 – Jake & Rosey

Episode 13 – Jake & Ross

Episode 14 – Jake & Rosey

Episode 15 – Jake & Ross

Episode 16 – Jake & Ross

Series 6

Episode 1 – Jake

Episode 2 – Jake

Episode 3 – Jake

Episode 4 – Jake

Episode 5 – Jake & Andy

Episode 6 – Jake & Andy

Episode 7 – Jake

Episode 8 – Jake

Episode 9 – Jake & Rosey

Episode 10 – Jake & Rosey

Episode 11 – Jake & Rosey

Episode 12 – Jake & Rosey

Episode 13 – Jake & Rosey

Episode 14 – Jake & Ricky

Episode 15 – Jake & Ricky

Series 7

Episode 1 – Jake * Rosey

Episode 2 – Ross * Jake

Episode 3 – Jake & Rosey

Episode 4 – Jake & Ross

Episode 5 – Jake

Episode 6 – Jake * Rosey

Episode 7 – Jake & Rosey

Episode 8 – Jake * Rosey & Ross

Episode 9 – Jake & Rosey

Episode 10 – Jake & Rosey

Episode 11 – Jake & Rosey

Episode 12 – Jake & Rosey

Episode 13 – Jake & Rosey

Episode 14 – Jake & Rosey

Episode 15 – Ross * Jake & Rosey

Series 8

Episode 1 – Jake * Rosey

Episode 2 – Jake * Rosey

Episode 3 – Jake & Rosey

Episode 4 – Jake

Episode 5 – Jake

Episode 6 – Jake & Rosey

Episode 7 – Jake & Rosey

Episode 8 – Jake & Ross

Episode 9 – Jake * Ross * Rosey

Episode 10 – Jake * Rosey

Other

Le Chevalier du Labyrinthe – Ross & Jake

El Rescate Del Talisman – Ross & Jake

Knightmare VR – Ross & Jake

Knightmare Geek Week – Ross & Amy

]]>https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/47558https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/47558Sat, 09 Aug 2014 11:30:56 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Knightmare Commentary Tracks on Mon, 12 Aug 2013 22:41:27 GMT]]>

Knightmare Geek Week Commentary with Ross Thompson & Amy Davies - August 12th 2013

Thanks for recording this, I always enjoy listening to commentaries! I'm glad Amy finally did one, I thought she'd be good at it. 🙂

Regarding the spyglass scene and Theodora, I assume that the "goblin sticker" is the weapon Garstang is wielding (it looks like the spears used in pig-sticking), so they would have to tell her that it's in his possession.

Regarding the Level 2 clue objects, it sounds like they take the "jar of something" as well as the crystal, though a bit of discussion has obviously been edited out. If you listen carefully as they exit, Treguard can be heard saying "You've got the goblin powder". (Actually, watching this again, I wonder if they were supposed to use the goblin powder on Garstang, then take the weapon and pass it on to Theodora...)

]]>https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/45447https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/45447Mon, 12 Aug 2013 22:41:27 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Knightmare Commentary Tracks on Mon, 12 Aug 2013 22:15:37 GMT]]>

It's an unfortunately placed sound effect on the "he" of "heck".

It makes it sound like "what the <swish>uck is it" and your mind fills in the "f". With the out-of-sync video and audio, it's easy to conclude that she swears. But she doesn't.

That's fair enough! I guess it's the way it came across to me. It did make me chuckle though I admit!

]]>https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/45441https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/45441Mon, 12 Aug 2013 22:15:37 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Knightmare Commentary Tracks on Mon, 12 Aug 2013 21:50:29 GMT]]>Indeed, but it's still pretty clear that she says, "Heck", at least with the sound boosted.

Anyway, back on subject, well done, Ross and Amy, an entertaining commentary.

]]>https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/45436https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/45436Mon, 12 Aug 2013 21:50:29 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Knightmare Commentary Tracks on Mon, 12 Aug 2013 21:33:53 GMT]]>It's an unfortunately placed sound effect on the "he" of "heck".

It makes it sound like "what the <swish>uck is it" and your mind fills in the "f". With the out-of-sync video and audio, it's easy to conclude that she swears. But she doesn't.

]]>https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/45433https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/45433Mon, 12 Aug 2013 21:33:53 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Knightmare Commentary Tracks on Mon, 12 Aug 2013 21:29:18 GMT]]>For what it's worth, I've just re-watched it, and to my ears, what Isy says is very clearly, 'What the heck is it?' But, time we settled this argument.

So here, I've extracted the line from the soundtrack and boosted the sound where she says, 'Heck'. Listen here.

]]>https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/45432https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/45432Mon, 12 Aug 2013 21:29:18 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Knightmare Commentary Tracks on Mon, 12 Aug 2013 21:26:37 GMT]]>

It's only what I think! It's just how it sounded to me.

Oh, if you're only listening to it, then you're absolutely blameless.

]]>https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/45430https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/45430Mon, 12 Aug 2013 21:26:37 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Knightmare Commentary Tracks on Mon, 12 Aug 2013 21:10:34 GMT]]>

Good work guys! But disagree with regarding Daisy and if she swore or not. I have seen this bit many times and for me, she dropped the F bomb!

Daisy says no such thing.

If you really want to convince yourself, watch her lips. She clearly says "Heck". What you're seeing is an optical illusion caused by the fact that the audio and video are ever-so-slightly out of sync.

It's only what I think! It's just how it sounded to me. If Isy says that she didn't swear, I would believe her. I'm sure that Tim would have re-shot the scene had she swore.

]]>https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/45429https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/45429Mon, 12 Aug 2013 21:10:34 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Knightmare Commentary Tracks on Mon, 12 Aug 2013 21:03:17 GMT]]>

Good work guys! But disagree with regarding Daisy and if she swore or not. I have seen this bit many times and for me, she dropped the F bomb!

Daisy says no such thing.

If you really want to convince yourself, watch her lips. She clearly says "Heck". What you're seeing is an optical illusion caused by the fact that the audio and video are ever-so-slightly out of sync.

Even from a common sense point of view...

Isy Suttie's a professional, her lines were scripted, and she knew perfectly well that the axes were coming and so wasn't at all surprised by them. Do you really think that she's likely to have sworn?

]]>https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/45427https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/45427Mon, 12 Aug 2013 21:03:17 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Knightmare Commentary Tracks on Mon, 12 Aug 2013 20:47:43 GMT]]>I've added a temporary link to the TDP front page. Once the Commentaries page has been restored and the old tracks re-uploaded, I will include a permanent link on there.

]]>https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/45426https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/45426Mon, 12 Aug 2013 20:47:43 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Knightmare Commentary Tracks on Mon, 12 Aug 2013 20:14:53 GMT]]>Thanks, Martin!

Also - thanks for the feedback, pjmlfc05. I remain convinced that it's 'heck' though!

]]>https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/45424https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/45424Mon, 12 Aug 2013 20:14:53 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Knightmare Commentary Tracks on Mon, 12 Aug 2013 20:10:50 GMT]]>Converted to MP3, which can be downloaded from http://tindeck.com/listen/rxxm.

]]>https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/45423https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/45423Mon, 12 Aug 2013 20:10:50 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Knightmare Commentary Tracks on Mon, 12 Aug 2013 20:01:13 GMT]]>Good work guys! But disagree with regarding Daisy and if she swore or not. I have seen this bit many times and for me, she dropped the F bomb!

Still you both did a good job! Well done.

]]>https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/45422https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/45422Mon, 12 Aug 2013 20:01:13 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Knightmare Commentary Tracks on Mon, 12 Aug 2013 19:11:08 GMT]]>I'll convert this to MP3, clean it up, and upload it to the TDP site for you.

]]>https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/45421https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/45421Mon, 12 Aug 2013 19:11:08 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Knightmare Commentary Tracks on Mon, 12 Aug 2013 18:51:00 GMT]]>Knightmare Geek Week Commentary with Ross Thompson & Amy Davies - August 12th 2013

]]>https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/45420https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/45420Mon, 12 Aug 2013 18:51:00 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Knightmare Commentary Tracks on Thu, 06 Sep 2012 14:46:31 GMT]]>LeakID appears to be a French company, while 4Shared is based in California, and the DMCA law is American in origin, so I'm not sure how much sway English or Scots Law would hold.

]]>https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/43129https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/43129Thu, 06 Sep 2012 14:46:31 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Knightmare Commentary Tracks on Thu, 06 Sep 2012 07:13:51 GMT]]>

Even if the soundtracks of the episodes were included in the Commentary tracks, we'd still be okay, as the Fair Use clause allows material to be used for purposes of parody or critique.

Actually, UK law does not recognise parody as an exception for using copyrighted material.

It does recognise fair use for the purposes of commentary or review.

However, I think the bigger argument is that you don't (as far as I am aware) actually use anyone else's material. You (as a group) are the sole origin of any material.

]]>https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/43128https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/43128Thu, 06 Sep 2012 07:13:51 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Knightmare Commentary Tracks on Thu, 06 Sep 2012 06:28:24 GMT]]>Forester has suggested that the whole business is a result of some kind of automated process; an algorithm that detected a similarity between our files and those of LeakID. Either way, it definitely counts as trolling.

Even if the soundtracks of the episodes were included in the Commentary tracks, we'd still be okay, as the Fair Use clause allows material to be used for purposes of parody or critique. By definition, the Commentaries are critiques. (But then the episode soundtracks are pretty much inaudible on the Commentaries anyway.) So even if it turns out that LeakID has links to ITN or Granada Media - which I'm sure they don't - they really haven't got a case.

]]>https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/43127https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/43127Thu, 06 Sep 2012 06:28:24 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Knightmare Commentary Tracks on Wed, 05 Sep 2012 22:50:04 GMT]]>I'm about to email you to this effect, but it's clear you have grounds to file a counter-notification per 4shared's policy (see http://www.4shared.com/dmca.jsp)

There's nothing I hate more than copyright trolls, and while I'm not featured on the commentary tracks, as a Dunshelm Player I would urge you to go ahead. Hopefully 4squared follows their policy and sides with us.

In the worst case scenario, the files would need to be hosted elsewhere. There's free services like Tindeck and Soundcloud, or proper web hosting - I used to use Feralhost, for example.

]]>https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/43125https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/43125Wed, 05 Sep 2012 22:50:04 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Knightmare Commentary Tracks on Wed, 05 Sep 2012 21:06:25 GMT]]>See my PM

]]>https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/43124https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/43124Wed, 05 Sep 2012 21:06:25 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Knightmare Commentary Tracks on Wed, 05 Sep 2012 18:38:35 GMT]]>Right, this is certainly not the most positive news imaginable on the eve of KM's 25th anniversary, but today I've received notification from 4Shared, the File-server we use for sharing the Audio Plays, that our service has been suspended with immediate effect. The reason given is that a Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) injunction has been slapped on our material. A company called LeakID is claiming to have copyright on The Dunshelm Players' recordings.

Specifically, and very bizarrely, this DMCA has been placed on the Commentary Tracks recorded by Jake Collins, Rosey Collins, Andy Marshall, Ross Thompson, Ricky Temple and myself. Therefore, for the next few days it will not be possible to download any of TDP's material while I and the other members of the team decide how we should respond.

How LeakID have managed to conclude that the Commentaries have anything to do with themselves is quite beyond comprehension, as the Commentaries are in fact the material on the website that is furthest from breaching copyright; to the best of my knowledge, we have never breached copyright with any of our work, but the Commentaries don't even include sound effects or music in the mix, they're just recordings of a few KM fans talking about a TV show. LeakID is a company with a notorious history of filing triggerhappy false DMCA claims with numerous file-sharing websites.

As far as I can see, therefore, LeakID hath not a feather to fly with, and I expect to file a counter-claim with 4Shared to get the MP3's restored. However, I will not do so without firstly getting the approval of others involved, in case anyone has any objections in advance against getting dragged into any potential legal wranglings. Such concerns are entirely reasonable ones.

For now, the team must delay the launch of the next episode of The Techno-Colour Tales while we discuss our options. Any advice from others on this will be welcome and taken on board. We will keep the forum posted on developments.

]]>https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/43122https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/43122Wed, 05 Sep 2012 18:38:35 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Knightmare Commentary Tracks on Wed, 25 Jul 2012 12:42:54 GMT]]>I'll just say here that I absolutely LOVE these commentaries! They're so much fun to listen to and a certain one of them has inspired me to do something. It's currently a WIP but I'll be finished in due time

]]>https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/43035https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/43035Wed, 25 Jul 2012 12:42:54 GMT