iAnd the more i think of it im sure we saw it in season 3.. didn't the team use a spell and turned into one?

There was such a chap, and a team did use a spell to turn into an armoured figure in order to scare off Queen Grimwold and her pooch. However, Treguard definitely referred to the armoured chap in S3 as a Behemoth, even if it was exactly the same armoured chap as was called a Frightknight in S4.

everyone beats me by a matter of seconds ! LOL

But your right she did

we mentioned the causeways and trophys but i dont think that instance got a mention or the transporter pads either (im guessing its a fright knight)

and isn't it the only time we see them or one in person? i can't remember other eps with a frightknight going after the team rarther then just sit in the background

stuff like "Hordriss' calling name is malefact"...etc

Ironically, the team cast DROWS, which is the name for the dark elf race!

you only know that because i told you on sunday  

I can't remember dungeoneers ever meeting a Frightknight. Mogdred used to crumble ledges but I don't know if he ever killed anyone. Morghanna did though.

Series 4 Mogdred killed someone. Magic sword. Spell casting T...R...A....N...S...F....oh, we're dead.

...ahem...

You may be thinking of Morghanna, who sent a sword after Ross, and he fell off a thin ledge and died. Malice and Mogdread also crumbled bridges. No dungeoneer died by falling off a crumbling bridge - it was simply a case of power walk and live!

Anyway, the Frightknights were used on the causeways in Series 6, but that's the closest any dungeoneer got to them.

shrug

Hordriss was known as the confuser as people never knew which side he would be on!

Also, can anyone confirm an early memory of hordiss making a ledge disappear beneath a dungeoneer or sending a sword after them on a ledge and ultimately killing them? Or was it Morgdred or someone else?

I though Hordiss was a goody

Although I hated some of the later series characters I did like the new lord fear backgrounds and his meddling with technology / alien artifacts background. It kind of made it more interesting (and similar to Saruman in the Lord of the Rings with his "March of Technology" ethic

An interesting idea. As I've hinted before, I'd have loved the Brollachan's story to be something like the Balrog from LOTR- so for "the dwarves delved too deeply and awoke an unnamed horror", read "Lord Fear spread his virtual clutches too wide and awoke something truly perilous to both the Powers That Be and the Opposition".

Although I hated some of the later series characters I did like the new lord fear backgrounds and his meddling with technology / alien artifacts background. It kind of made it more interesting (and similar to Saruman in the Lord of the Rings with his "March of Technology" ethic

so what was the story of lord fears roll? did they just start the season with him there or was there something behind it?

once i get some time im gonna have read all the though the seasons on this site, ive had a look over a few months and stuff but not really looked at hard, and my mind is very blurry when it comes to the very early seasons.. i can remember watching them , but just cant remember them,

I occasionally thought the humour value in Lord Fear's scenes were pushed slightly too far, whereas Mogdred was so much more serious.

BTW, I'm not trying to put Mogdred ahead of LF here. Just saying one thing about him I personally preferred.

For Purgatory's benefit, here's the old guy himself:

[img width=212 height=190]http://www.knightmare.com/series/2/76.jpg[/img]

There's nothing wrong with that skin that a few days in the sun wouldn't fix.

Anyway, here's what he said:

"The Merlin/Mogdred scenario was exhausted (in any case I had always found it annoyingly derivative) and I was convinced that the drama game engine of Knightmare must be driven by a really solid baddy."

I think I personally agree with you. I thought Mogdred was extremely effective, although perhaps all things have their shelf life.  I occasionally thought the humour value in Lord Fear's scenes were pushed slightly too far, whereas Mogdred was so much more serious.  

I especially agree on Mog. being Merlin's enemy. I liked the idea of Treguard having some neutrality, so he could have a few "evilish" moments. Mogdred just killing dungeoneers for fun, as you put it, makes him sound more powerful too. If the villains' sole aim was to kill the kidsies, some of them made pretty awful jobs of it- if these supposedly powerful sorcerers have to plan and scheme just to kill a blindfolded 13 year old who can only carry 2 objects at a time, it doesn't say much for them!  If you reason that the kidsies just get in the way, then the villains keep some integrity.