Is this still on the cards then? At one point it was 'January or never' so I was getting worried it had fallen through...

It's made very very little progress.

So official it is Dunshelm Castle, but kept the reputation of being Knightmare Castle due to the presence of the Dungeon.

Yes, I was just going to suggest spelling it Fayre for those very reasons!

Me too. KnightFayre ticks all the boxes for me, and according to Google, it isn't taken.

Other ideas: Level 4, although it looks like Level 42 with a digit missed off; as a parody of TOWIE, TOWIO (The Only Way Is Onward), which may work better as a subtitle; in tribute to Team 5 of Series 7, BrollyCon.

Tania has been on the Facebook page today, volunteering to be a special guest at the convention if it happens - I say take her up on the offer!

Special guest? She may be hoping that we'll pay her to attend, rather than her paying us.

I have to say, within Knightmare, I detest the name "Knightmare Castle". For me, it's so fourth wall breaking.

Knightmare's take on the old saying would seem to be that walls are made to be broken. And the fourth wall in Knightmare is a knowingly flimsy construct that only really exists during gameplay, and even then is not unbreakable, as demonstrated during Akash's quest. After all, Treguard invited the watchers many times to "join us again for Knightmare." Thinking about it, I tend to regard Knightmare as the name that applies to the Dungeon(s), with Dunshelm being the true name of the castle. It's more authentic with a slightly subtler pun. What I didn't realise until playing Knightmare QI in TES is that we have to wait until Quest 9 of Series 3 before we hear Dunshelm mentioned in the programme itself.

I must admit to always accepting KM Castle as its official name. When I was a child I just assumed the show was named after the location and have never questioned that assumption.

This makes me think of Greek mythology's Underworld being known as Hades because Hades ruled it.

• Generic names are fine. However, we want to avoid names that suggest the convention relates to something else. For example, we previously eliminated "JusticeCon".

• More obscure references to Knightmare are slightly less desirable than more explicit ones because then the name says what it is. This isn't all that big a deal though.

I quite like The Convention of Confusion but have a couple of concerns:

From a marketing perspective, is the meaning obviously apparent to the casual KM fan/ casual attendee? It might not be the case but are we on this forum much more familiar with the lexicon than many and so would immediately make a link to KM where others wouldn't?

It's a lot of syllables and would be abbreviated to COC. Verbally, it would become 'Cock 2014' and may attract entirely the wrong crowd.

LOL!

From a marketing perspective, is the meaning obviously apparent to the casual KM fan/ casual attendee? It might not be the case but are we on this forum much more familiar with the lexicon than many and so would immediately make a link to KM where others wouldn't?

It's a lot of syllables and would be abbreviated to COC. Verbally, it would become 'Cock 2014' and may attract entirely the wrong crowd.

I must admit to always accepting KM Castle as its official name. When I was a child I just assumed the show was named after the location and have never questioned that assumption.

My earliest KM memories are S2 and the first book so as far as I'm concerned that's just what it's called, for good or bad!

I suppose i could see why you might consider it fourth wall breaking if it was a latter day nickname which somehow stuck but I've never thought of the castle as anything else. The 'castle of confusion' was always just a description to my mind.

'The Dungeon' is the specific bit of KM Castle where the quests take place so perhaps that could be used for the convention space

Also, the show was constantly breaking the fourth wall - indeed, its very premise rested on the interaction between worlds.

The brollachan from series 7 referred to Knightmare castle when asking Barry a question I believe and I'm sure Barry also mentioned something with regards to Knightmare castle too!

How about 'The Convention of Confusion'?

Like this one a lot!

My earliest KM memories are S2 and the first book so as far as I'm concerned that's just what it's called, for good or bad!

I suppose i could see why you might consider it fourth wall breaking if it was a latter day nickname which somehow stuck but I've never thought of the castle as anything else. The 'castle of confusion' was always just a description to my mind.

'The Dungeon' is the specific bit of KM Castle where the quests take place so perhaps that could be used for the convention space

Also, the show was constantly breaking the fourth wall - indeed, its very premise rested on the interaction between worlds.

Wasn't the term 'Castle of Illusion' ever used? I've got in my m head it was at some point.

The first time I ever came across the name 'Knightmare Castle' was a mention in a copy of the TV Times (yes, my family regularly bought the TV Times back then, but only because the Radio Times still didn't include ITV or Channel 4 listings) around the mid-stage of season 2. The name rather took me by surprise, as I always thought the castle was simply called 'The Castle Of Confusion' - not just because of Treguard's intros, but because the CITV announcer for 1988 always used that term as well.

Then I heard Treguard use the term 'Knightmare Castle' when congratulating Julian Smith's winning quest, and when I got my copy of the first Dave Morris novella a few weeks later, I found that the term was used very freely in that too, alongside 'Dunshelm', with no mention of 'The Castle Of Confusion' at all.

So I decided to just accept it. It's never bothered me greatly since that time, but even so it's still never sat all that well with me. 'Dunshelm' is preferable.

Don't I also recall this being a point of debate among fans? The name of the castle, that is?

Happy to be convinced though! (not that it really matters what I think )

KnightFair!

I like this, except spell it KnightFayre - looks more medieval, and closer to the programme's spelling.

KnightFair!

Ok, I'll stop now.

Ha! Why not?! Best one yet I think!

Ok, I'll stop now.

ConQuest?

Con Justicia is Spanish for 'with justice' which is obviously totally unusable but i think nicely represents the spirit of the show