i stil say that morgana was good as she kiled although very underused as was mogdred in s3 not reallyy much influence in level 2 like he had before

And I still say it was Woodnutt who made the role so scary, not Mogdred himself.

I think I would have tired of Morghanna very quickly. Her dialogue was pretty bad too, especially the bit about "My delight lies on the dark side". Very dire, in my opinion. And I always associate Malice with that strange scene when she's disguised and looking for that "leather bound book", which is all a bit silly. Her disguise was almost as bad as some of Hordriss' efforts.

But she was silly to give an oppinion on something she had never seen. She should have just said to the reporter.

"I haven't seen the show, so can make no comment on its contense."

Mogdred, Morghanna, Malice, Megatron, Mumm-Ra, Miles Mayhem... even Ming the Merciless was brought back to be the bad guy in Defenders of the Earth. Can anyone think of any others?

What I found refreshing about her, or at least a bit different, was her dealings were so much more ambiguous than Mogdred's. Even when Mogs was trying to turn a dungeoneer, there was never any doubt that his purposes were evil, and that it was an unequal bargain.

With Malice, there were times when she would make a deal with a dungeoneer with no strings attached. Hardly any of those dreary "swear loyalty unto me" oaths of allegiance or other such nonsense, it was just "do me one favour and I will reward you once, and that'll be the end of it." Made her more adaptable, and a more challenging character to read.

It's just a pity that once again the dialogue was a bit cheesy. She even directly paraphrased Hordriss on numerous occasions, and it's distracting enough when characters recycle their own dialogue from quest-to-quest let alone someone else's.

Mogred was just there to server as a evil force in the dungeon he had no real character.

Morgana main function in the dungeon was as Mogred's Henchwoman and that was about it, and with only two apperences she never made much Impact realy.

Malice was the only one of the three as I said earlyer who had her own character. She could be helpful or as in Dickren's case a ver threterning presencs to dungeoneers and there quests. She also unlike Morgana seemd to be a rival to Mogred instead of a lacky.

Its a shame they didn't carry the character forward and we got stuck with "Old Icy Knickers" Acandra. Urgggh she was worse then Mogred and Morgana Combined.

Nowadays I've encountered all sorts of much more complex villains in countless novels and more mature television shows (not to mention Mogdred's own successor), and it all puts Mogs into a very sad perspective.

In the cold light of day, Mog's dialogue was a pathetic, pooey pile o' pants, and he'd have been useless if he'd been played by practically any other actor.

This raises an interesting point; a lot of us, when we first watched Knightmare, didn't do so in 'the cold light of day', but in the autumn twilight (with or without curtains drawn, lights off, etc.); and retrospect, often via this Forum, is a useful way of thinking about what it all meant. Back in the 80s, I had no developed concept of cliche or generic arch-villainy; but now, in whatever year this is, it's easier for me to appreciate that Mogdred was unoriginal and hackneyed in some ways.

She was better writen.

She was in my oppinion very thretaning.

She was not a walk behinder like Morgana.

She was not a cheesy Bad Guy Sterotype Like Mogred

I can't agree about Mogdred's dialect. He was like the arch-villain in a million US adventure cartoons. He was scarier than Lord Fear, I acknowledge, but that was because John Woodnutt was absolutely terrific in the part. It was really Woodnutt who was so terrifying, not Mogdred. In the cold light of day, Mog's dialogue was a pathetic, pooey pile o' pants, and he'd have been useless if he'd been played by practically any other actor.

The Series 3 scene with Morghanna sending the floating axe after the Dungeoneer is one of my favourites from all the Knightmare I have seen.

i liked morgana she was reponsible for level 3 dewtyhs in s 3 (i liked th ooh verynasty off treguard but did not like the fact there was only 1 gong in ther death full rapid skull would have  been asppropriate!!! at a far pace!!

mogdred frightened me!!!!

But for actually being bad then Mogdread and Morghanna are mine  both of them killed off dungeoneers.

They arent really main baddies but did anyone else find Assassins kinda creepy just the fact they said nothing and held the knife almost mike myers style hehe. and the music  oooooooh creepy.

At this time he has a scary lair, the best makeup, the pool of harasity. It is a shame the level 3 tower of goth was so false looking. They should have just stuck to art work at that time.