<![CDATA[Knightmare VR?  I don't like the concept!]]>Hi all,  I just read on the BringBackKnightmare website that they're in production of Knightmare VR.  Sounds great until I read what they were actually doing.  Instead of having someone blindfolded through the levels, it will be all CGI created, with no need for a Human Dungeoneer.

Why?  It takes away 1) The whole team aspect 2) The sense of urgency & 3) Just makes it into one of those phone in TV games where you have to shout 'left' & 'right' for half a minute.

They should bring it back as it was.  I'm not impressed with the proposals of entire CGI.  It's as insulting as the idea of Hollywood getting their hands on a live action Akira movie.

Not fair.  😠

]]>https://www.knightmare.com/forum/topic/434/knightmare-vr-i-don-t-like-the-conceptRSS for NodeSun, 13 Sep 2026 07:01:03 GMTFri, 27 Jun 2003 16:47:42 GMT60<![CDATA[Reply to Knightmare VR?  I don't like the concept! on Tue, 15 Jun 2004 10:51:17 GMT]]>I don't have a clue mate...

]]>https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/25865https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/25865Tue, 15 Jun 2004 10:51:17 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Knightmare VR?  I don't like the concept! on Tue, 15 Jun 2004 00:00:40 GMT]]>Is Tim Child going to do any more demonstrations for the general joe public to have a try or was the initial demo the only one we will see because with giving it a try or at least have a proper view i will reserve my judgement for the time being untill i see the product. But for the moment im looking forward to Knightmare coming back

]]>https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/25860https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/25860Tue, 15 Jun 2004 00:00:40 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Knightmare VR?  I don't like the concept! on Mon, 07 Jun 2004 08:33:21 GMT]]>No helmet either which is a real shame... 😕

]]>https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/25331https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/25331Mon, 07 Jun 2004 08:33:21 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Knightmare VR?  I don't like the concept! on Sun, 06 Jun 2004 19:31:18 GMT]]>It would be knice to see a real dungeoneer in the anti-chamber and then a VR dungeoneer during the quest that looks like the real dungeoneer. Or have no real dungeoneer just a VR one that changes each quest. If the dungeoneer is not to be real then there could be number of dungeoneer comuter created and given names, the advisors that are real though. During the series the first team (say out of 8 teams) are shown a name and picture list (of 8 dungeoneers) on the screen and Treguard asks them to pick their dungeoneer. When their quest ends and the next team appear they get the list of the next 7 dungeoneers and so on to the last team who gets the last remaining dungeoneer. Another alternative is for the team not to have a choice of who they get but for them to be shown the list and a computer to choose the dungeoneer for them. After the choice is made the dungeoneer introduces and gives a little bit of information about themself. They then appear in the first area of their quest.

Personally I hope that the dungeoneer is real when the team appear in the anti-chamber, but the other is a thought and idea.

]]>https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/25315https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/25315Sun, 06 Jun 2004 19:31:18 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Knightmare VR?  I don't like the concept! on Sun, 06 Jun 2004 18:31:13 GMT]]>yeah i hope they make you care about the dungeoneer. also will he/she change for every team of contestants otheriwse it'd be the same dungeoneer for each team. If they made it gory then i think it would frighten kids but i think thye could make the screen be covered in red like when series 8 team 2 died in the corridor of blades.

]]>https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/25306https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/25306Sun, 06 Jun 2004 18:31:13 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Knightmare VR?  I don't like the concept! on Sun, 06 Jun 2004 18:17:25 GMT]]>It would appear that this is one of the threads that didn't convert properely when we changed forum. I have no idea why, but thankfully it only seems to have affected a few threads.

]]>https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/25303https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/25303Sun, 06 Jun 2004 18:17:25 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Knightmare VR?  I don't like the concept! on Sun, 06 Jun 2004 15:36:33 GMT]]>Yes, I'm having this difficulty as well.

I would guess by looking at the TimeGate pilot that the advisors will be real. I certainly hope that will be the case (as with Treguard and the entire antechamber) because it will help distinguish between fantasy and reality.

]]>https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/25294https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/25294Sun, 06 Jun 2004 15:36:33 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Knightmare VR?  I don't like the concept! on Sat, 05 Jun 2004 20:43:52 GMT]]>Off topic but does the layout of this thread seem strange? I seem to have a problem viewing this thread properly, I don't know if it's a problem with the thread itself. Is anyone else having the same problem with it or and any other thread?

Back to the topic though, are the advisors going to be real or VR? If they are VR are they going to be controlled by contestants?

]]>https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/25276https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/25276Sat, 05 Jun 2004 20:43:52 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Knightmare VR?  I don't like the concept! on Sat, 05 Jun 2004 07:28:11 GMT]]>The key thing is to make the viewer care about the dungeoneer, whether they are real or avatar. It is a concern, but Televirtual know what they are doing. If they can create suspense it will work.

I'd like to see a slight step-up in the gore factor. That'd bring in the viewers!

]]>https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/25255https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/25255Sat, 05 Jun 2004 07:28:11 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Knightmare VR?  I don't like the concept! on Fri, 04 Jun 2004 22:09:39 GMT]]>But then a death could be made gory, which I'd fear. Certainly not children's viewing then though, which I would hope that it's for all ages.

]]>https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/25244https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/25244Fri, 04 Jun 2004 22:09:39 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Knightmare VR?  I don't like the concept! on Fri, 04 Jun 2004 14:31:26 GMT]]>I don't like the look of knightmare VR. there's no sense of danger for the dungeoneer as they arent real

]]>https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/25198https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/25198Fri, 04 Jun 2004 14:31:26 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Knightmare VR?  I don't like the concept! on Thu, 29 Apr 2004 11:37:17 GMT]]>I have them all except Labyrinths and Lord Fear's Domain. I have the boardgame as well. I always used to look for them when they were advertised at the end of the prog. I used to probably buy one book each year when i went on holiday - W.H. Smith's manchester Airport always had a fine selection. Why did you need to know this?

]]>https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/22135https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/22135Thu, 29 Apr 2004 11:37:17 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Knightmare VR?  I don't like the concept! on Tue, 30 Mar 2004 15:36:26 GMT]]>Snowwie is Emilia, yes!

I can't remember her second name, it ws quite long al that I know is that it starts with a "P"  ::)

]]>https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/20673https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/20673Tue, 30 Mar 2004 15:36:26 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Knightmare VR?  I don't like the concept! on Tue, 30 Mar 2004 15:12:17 GMT]]>To be brutally honest, Wills, if I were you I'd only go out of my way to get Lord Fear's Domain if I were a completist. It's quite an infantile book really, with an over-dependence on those irritating arithmetical puzzles that Dave Morris was always so enamoured with. It's also a very different type of book to all the others, as it's really just a puzzle book disguised as a novella.

]]>https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/20672https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/20672Tue, 30 Mar 2004 15:12:17 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Knightmare VR?  I don't like the concept! on Tue, 30 Mar 2004 14:54:33 GMT]]>It is 'Lord Fear's Domain' I don't have.  Drat! and double drat!  Oh well, the hunt for the missing KM book begins.  

I was foolish enough not to join the adventurer's club.

]]>https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/20671https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/20671Tue, 30 Mar 2004 14:54:33 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Knightmare VR?  I don't like the concept! on Tue, 30 Mar 2004 00:34:56 GMT]]>Apart from checking amazon.co.uk and ebay.co.uk regularly for Knightmare books on sale, there are also quite a few listed on http://www.abebooks.co.uk/.

Indeed, Lord Fear's Domain (the last book) is the most difficult of the Knightmare books to find. Not sure why, perhaps it had a smaller print run, or was never re-printed as Knightmare finished. Or perhaps because it wasn't advertised on CITV, not many people bought it!

If you were a member of the Knightmare Adventurer's Club, you would have heard about it.  ;D

]]>https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/20667https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/20667Tue, 30 Mar 2004 00:34:56 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Knightmare VR?  I don't like the concept! on Mon, 29 Mar 2004 23:12:12 GMT]]>No Emii is Emily Bradshaw. Emilia is Emilia Pulianen. (I hope I spelt that right, Snowwie!)

]]>https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/20666https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/20666Mon, 29 Mar 2004 23:12:12 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Knightmare VR?  I don't like the concept! on Mon, 29 Mar 2004 22:44:59 GMT]]>Oh, I thought that he meant Emilia was Emii or visa versa!

]]>https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/20664https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/20664Mon, 29 Mar 2004 22:44:59 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Knightmare VR?  I don't like the concept! on Mon, 29 Mar 2004 22:07:28 GMT]]>To Moana: Emilia is presumably Snowwiewolf.

To Wills Of Doom: There were indeed 7 KM books  -  4 novellas and 3 kids' storybooks.

They were...

Knightmare (Can You Beat The Challenge?)

The Labyrinths Of Fear

Fortress Of Assassins

The Sorcerer's Isle

The Forbidden Gate

The Dragon's Lair

Lord Fear's Domain

]]>https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/20662https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/20662Mon, 29 Mar 2004 22:07:28 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Knightmare VR?  I don't like the concept! on Mon, 29 Mar 2004 21:47:01 GMT]]>Stupid question Glenn but who's Emilia? If it's who I think it is she'll probably love you for calling her that (I don't think so somehow actually). Also Lord_Bob, would that be the Lord_Bob of old or the new ringmasterrob?

]]>https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/20661https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/20661Mon, 29 Mar 2004 21:47:01 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Knightmare VR?  I don't like the concept! on Mon, 29 Mar 2004 21:29:55 GMT]]>

To that end, anyone know of somewhere that I might be able to track down 'Fortress of Assasins'? It's the only one of the 7 that I, so far, haven't been able to get. Got a .PDF of it a while back but that just ain't the same...

Were there seven books?  I thought there were only six!

I thought I had them all.

I've seen Fortress of Assassins a couple of times at car boot sales.  Other than that I wouldn't know where to look Snowcat.  

I do have in my KM memorabilia a T-shirt with KM castle on it.  Unfortunately I am now too big to wear it.

]]>https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/20660https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/20660Mon, 29 Mar 2004 21:29:55 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Knightmare VR?  I don't like the concept! on Mon, 29 Mar 2004 18:54:35 GMT]]>Fear

]]>https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/20658https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/20658Mon, 29 Mar 2004 18:54:35 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Knightmare VR?  I don't like the concept! on Mon, 29 Mar 2004 18:34:54 GMT]]>

I can just imagine snerk

Treguard: Your names please

Dungeoneer: Emilia

Number One: Tom

Number Two Glenn

Number Three: Lord Bob

Errr Who's Tom?  ???

]]>https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/20655https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/20655Mon, 29 Mar 2004 18:34:54 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Knightmare VR?  I don't like the concept! on Mon, 29 Mar 2004 16:55:47 GMT]]>The only reason that forbidden planet don't have a KM section is because there is hardly anything to sell! I can't think of anything other than the books (now LOOOOOONG out of print).

To that end, anyone know of somewhere that I might be able to track down 'Fortress of Assasins'? It's the only one of the 7 that I, so far, haven't been able to get. Got a .PDF of it a while back but that just ain't the same...

Preferably somewhere outside of the net, I've been burnt too many times by rogue traders to trust it that far.  :-[

]]>https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/20648https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/20648Mon, 29 Mar 2004 16:55:47 GMT