I found the advisors' confusion towards Elita's voice disappointing. Speculation: the intention was for the team to have some interaction with the voice and establish its identity before spellcasting BAG (...again).

Yes I suspect the producers were a bit disappointed too. But it was short-sighted on their part not to forsee that the team would interpret it as a wall monster-esque riddle to be answered. She shouldn't have asked a question like that.

Hordriss gifted team 6 a "BAG" spell to try to retrieve Elita's voice.

Shortly afterwards, a haunting appeared and one of the advisors (Ian?) quickly cast the spell, without any consultation. Nothing happened.

In the next room, Elita's voice "materialised"

As the Smiths didn't quite sing in 1984: "I was looking for a gob and then I found a gob, and Heaven knows I'm miserable now."

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The team thinking Elita's voice insulting them is a question is great

When they WERE ready for the BAG spell to be cast (with Elita's voice), it took them FOREVER to realise that the voice was there and needed capturing!

I found the advisors' confusion towards Elita's voice disappointing. Speculation: the intention was for the team to have some interaction with the voice and establish its identity before spellcasting BAG (...again).

The disembodied mouth reminds me of the intro to The Rocky Horror Picture Show. Series 5 cast member Rayner Bourton, who was in the original RHPS stage cast, may have thought the same.

Shortly afterwards, a haunting appeared and one of the advisors (Ian?) quickly cast the spell, without any consultation. Nothing happened.

In the next room, Elita's voice "materialised" and they were able to cast "BAG" again, even tho they had already wasted it, and it worked. Another let-off?

More inevitable abuse from Elita when she got her voice back, but at least she gave them the level 2 password.

Their demise on the causeway was a sudden shock. They chose the correct path, but took far too long on one block and it fell away without warning.

There was no timer on the causeway, so it could have been deemed harsh, but they had already had two reprieves, so i guess they could hardly complain.

Team 7 made a slow start.

I felt really sorry for Chris when he was trying to read that menu in the "Crazed Heifer", with the helmet of justice apparently causing him problems with his glasses.

When they spellcast BAG to trap Elita's voice, it also magically gives her Pixel's accent for a moment. g

1. The Gwen situation. They took her token, in some quests this would seem to be enough to get the help required to progress. To have to answer questions on top of this makes it a trickier challenge to start with (compared to other quests this series, I'm not even going to start on the series 3 comparisons...). The questions themselves were in my opinion, quite difficult. I think the main issue people have with this is that it was stated at the beginning that she wanted two correct answers and then gave the password with one. The team was lucky to be given this yes, but they certainly didn't cheat.

2. The BAG spell. They definatly cast it in the wrong place becuase they thought the haunting was the voice. It's easy for us all to see that it was a FWS but to give the team the benefit they didn't know what they were looking for and opting for trying to bag the chattering teeth skull isn't the silliest mistake I've seen a team make. Again they were lucky that they were allowed to use the spell again, but they weren't cheating; it was the fault of the production team that they weren't prepared for them using the spell early so they had to let them off with it. And if they had been finished here then we wouldn't have had the opportunity for more Pickle complaining about Elita banter...

3. The causeway of death. While we will never know if they were too slow it seems more likely they were in loosing status over the BAG spell and since they couldn't win had to be killed off. I don't think this was the best way to end them, but it was one of the easier ways.

Anyway, I liked this team. They all contributed and were into it without panicking! I salute any team who have thought about how they can direct their dungeoneer at anything other than 90 degree angles The descriptions of the rooms were brief but useful; where the exit is and anything extraordinary. If they'd been given the quest some other teams had I'm sure they would have made it at least into level 3 .

I only realised on their second episode that they were all from Challoner's boys school, that's not far from me, in fact my mum used to teach there! Although it does seem a bit odd to give a school as where you're from, it's not unusual for people to travel from quite long distances to get to school so it's better to say they're all from there (their common ground) then giving the names of a couple of far flung places .

New team. They look really young! Chris not being able to read the scroll was strange, he must be trying to look down and not looking through his glasses, who knows? Not very helpful to have a dungeoneer with even further reduced vision!

Moreso the fact this was 15 years ago and im guessing the boys are settled down with families now

I thought it was really funny when the advisor thought the skull should be BAGed! How would a skull be Elita's voice?

Still think it was a tad unfair, that death. Even 10 months on. Or 13 years, even...

Liked the end squence showing the camera pulling back from the anti-chamber and then reversing through the end credits

When they WERE ready for the BAG spell to be cast (with Elita's voice), it took them FOREVER to realise that the voice was there and needed capturing! I thought their life force was going to run out = death when I first watched it

This team spent most of this episode on a quest to search Elita's voice. It seems spells don't work on skulls, though, as they (incorrectly) spellcast BAG on it and nothing happened. What's more, they spellcasted it again with the voice and it worked. After that they headed into an usual S6-style room, without that annoying S5 solarise effect. After finding a scroll and key using the divining rod...they fall to their doom in the causeway. Funny how fortunes change in an instant...

Loved the "Could you turn the eyeshield the other way" line from one of the advisors from the next team...and as if by magic, it does!

In regards to the "did Team 6 die fairly" argument, I'll say that as much as I liked the team, they did make a couple of pretty fatal flaws that should have killed them. But to have a potentially spectacular death that should have killed them replaced with a lousy "yet another causeway death"... UGH!

I think I know what you mean regarding the death sequence, is it the one available on the clips section on the Knightmare website?

Yes. It's definitely there.

The ending to this past episode was...odd, to say the least. I also thought the team death was unfair, and it made me jump too.

Still, I'm beginning to like my don't-watch-it-for-two-weeks-(because I can't, being at uni)-then-watch-6-episodes-back-to-back.

I've also started noticing Pickle and Treguard doing a bit of banter during the Eye Shield sequences, thankfully.

Is it the Death Sequence cause that sounds quite funny to watch according to the Series Link?? but then again I dont think we will see the Death until Wednesday so what else happens that is funny??

A very nice spyglass scene again this episode. I'm enjoying them now, even if they don't really add a huge amount to the gameplay.

The scene with Elita getting her voice back is one of my favourites in Series 5. The team thinking Elita's voice insulting them is a question is great, and I do like Elita's little speech when she realises "It's Back!". Even Pickle's little comment about her is rather funny.

I didn't like Treguard and Pickle's excessive hints about using the divining rod, and as I've said, I was sad to see the team die. It's strange how some teams are more likeable than others, and how most of us on here seem to have a consensus on teams we like and dislike.

Team 7 are funny, and I'm looking forward to... well, anyone who knows what's coming will know what I'm looking forward to seeing again. The little exchange in the Descender is very funny, and they do strike you as a little hapless from the start, from the reluctant-to-speak advisors to Chris. the dungeoneer, who can't manage to read a menu that's right in front of him.

Nice episode ending too despite my dislike of "pantomime elements".

I still think it was cruel when they werent given the slightest warning. Sarah's team were awfully boring and really slow and they got all the time in the world to do things yet this team got axed for a couple of extra seconds on a tile

I'm sure sure on that. Certainly in the final edit it looks that way, but as Jenna and Andrea have recently said in other posts, their causeway attempt was fairly heavily edited with a lot of their decision-making and Treguard's warnings to hurry up edited out. I suspect the same is true here- in any case, the fact they seemed fairly quick in the final edit is no guarantee they were actually sufficiently speedy. Plus, as other people have said, despite being a likeable team, they had made mistakes beforehand, so perhaps this was just the final straw, or they were being tested to the letter after being given a reprieve earlier.

after cheating twice they should have been killed off long before the causeway.   it wasn't unfair.. they where just to slow.  and cheated twice.

Maybe the new team just can't read