<![CDATA[Skarkill Vs Raptor]]>Well here is my first topic on the KM disscusion forum.

I was woundering who people's favirote Goblain Manter was.

SKARKILL (S5-S6) or RAPTOR (S7-S8 )

The following Stats are my own personal oppinions and appart from the number of kills and lenth of service are open to your own enterpritations of the characters.

SKARKILL:

Lenth Of Service: 2 sesons

Fight Factor: 8/10

Comedy Value: 6/10

Difficulty: 7/10

Number Of Kills: 1

Synopsis:

Skarkill served as Lord Fear's Goblain Master (and later right hand man) for 2 sesons.

Skarkill stalked the dungeons with his goblains Grippa & Rrahk (later Tiny the Hobgoblain was added) trying to captuer dungeoneers with his manacles.

Although he could be bribed oftern dungeoneers had to relay on other dungeon dwellwers to save them from the vile goblain master e.g. Pixle, Elita & Sir Hugh De Witless.

Skarkill made one "kill" during his reign of terror when he kiddnapped dungeoneer Richard in S5. Although this could be blamed on Richard's lack of gold it still remains a fact that Skarkill made a kill which is more then other Opposition minnions can say and if not for the intervention of The Powers That Be's Allies in the dungeon he would all most certainly have thwarted more quests.

Durring S6 Skarkill suffering from a broken leg at the hands of Tiny and so became more Lord Fear's right hand man in Mt Fear rearly venturing out in to the dungeon.

The end came for Skarkill when The Red Dragon "Red Death" crashed on to Mt Fear at the end of S6 breaking his other leg and rendering him usless to Lord Fear.

RAPTOR:

Lenth Of Service: 1 seson (See Synopsis)

Fight Factor: 3/10

Comedy Value: 9/10

Difficulty: 4/10

Number Of Kills: 0

Synopsis

The Pirate Raptor took over the role of Goblain Master in S7 after Skarkill was crippled. Brought in by Lissard (Skarkill's replacment as Lord Fear's right hand man) to do the actual dirty work in the dungeon as Lissard preferd to stay with his Lordness in Goth and Marblehead.

Like Skarkill he stalked the dungeon with Grippa & Rhark (never mentioned Tiny) and attempted to thwart quests. Unlike Skarkill Raptor was unable to stop one quest.

He also seemed easier to beat then Skarkill had and also showed himself to be a bit of a cowared, he was once scared of by a dungeoneer who used a spell to turn her self into a CAT.

Like Skarkill Raptor fell victim to Lord Fears plan to destroy Knightmare castle at the end of S7 and ended up getting crushed along with Lord Fear, Lissard and Sly Hands under The King of Trolls Bulstroded when he was killed by Tregaurd with the Troll hammer and fell on top of The Black Tower Of Goth.

Unlike Skarkill Raptor escaped unscathed and returned the following seson. BUT NOT AS goblain master (The Goblains sadly never apperd in S8 ) Raptor had become The Master Of The Miermen.

This change of assimnet made little differnce to his quest ending ablilitys and he continued to stalk the dungeon as mearly a pale imatation of his predocessor.

Well there you have it my views on the 2 Goblain Masters as you can tell my favirote was Skarkill.

But who is yours? Do you agree with my stats or do you think I am wrong? Pleses let me know.

]]>https://www.knightmare.com/forum/topic/702/skarkill-vs-raptorRSS for NodeWed, 16 Sep 2026 11:46:58 GMTWed, 19 Nov 2003 01:08:27 GMT60<![CDATA[Reply to Skarkill Vs Raptor on Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:41:17 GMT]]>[corniness]

Hehe... lovely.

[/corniness]

]]>https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/14065https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/14065Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:41:17 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Skarkill Vs Raptor on Thu, 27 Nov 2003 22:20:18 GMT]]>So, its the irons and one massive beating from Grippa and Rhark (Tiny also welcome to join in!) for Raptor  ;D

]]>https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/14010https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/14010Thu, 27 Nov 2003 22:20:18 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Skarkill Vs Raptor on Thu, 27 Nov 2003 22:17:20 GMT]]>Well after extensive voteing I have decided to call a halt to The "Who Was The Best Goblain Master" Poll.

For 2 resons:

  1. I didn't see anychance of the score changing.

  2. To save Raptor futher embarasment.

And so the winner by a massive 9-0 Majority is

SKARKILL

]]>https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/14009https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/14009Thu, 27 Nov 2003 22:17:20 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Skarkill Vs Raptor on Wed, 26 Nov 2003 02:20:46 GMT]]>

Hey Elita were dose Rayener Bourton apper in The Rocky Horror Show?

I've seen the video befor and have never noticed him.

He's not in the movie, (though he'd have been better than bloody Peter Hinwood, since he can actually ACT!) he was Rocky Horror in the original 1973 production of the musical the movie's based on. Images to follow, once I scan them.

]]>https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/13885https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/13885Wed, 26 Nov 2003 02:20:46 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Skarkill Vs Raptor on Tue, 25 Nov 2003 19:23:15 GMT]]>I Think that unless anyone else wants to cast a vote I will call the final result of this deabte.

So anyone else want to add there Vote?

]]>https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/13848https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/13848Tue, 25 Nov 2003 19:23:15 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Skarkill Vs Raptor on Mon, 24 Nov 2003 01:25:46 GMT]]>I have to agree there, that "lovely" explanation does explain things a heck of a lot better. I suppose I was a bit rash having only just seen the Pickle vs Majida debate  🙂

]]>https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/13660https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/13660Mon, 24 Nov 2003 01:25:46 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Skarkill Vs Raptor on Mon, 24 Nov 2003 01:21:41 GMT]]>Correction

Skarkill is Massacaring Raptor (9-0)

Scaramonger is Trouncing Bartram (6-1)

and Pickle and Majida when I last cheeked were prety much even.

So there not all one sided only the Skarkill/Raptor debate is.

]]>https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/13658https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/13658Mon, 24 Nov 2003 01:21:41 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Skarkill Vs Raptor on Mon, 24 Nov 2003 01:16:43 GMT]]>

HOW ARE THEY BIASED ?   😮 😮 😮

They've all been pretty much one-sided: I mean Skarkill's trouncing Raptor, Scaramonger's trouncing Bartram, and Pickle's trouncing Majida  ;D

]]>https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/13657https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/13657Mon, 24 Nov 2003 01:16:43 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Skarkill Vs Raptor on Mon, 24 Nov 2003 01:15:30 GMT]]>Hey Elita were dose Rayener Bourton apper in The Rocky Horror Show?

I've seen the video befor and have never noticed him.

]]>https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/13656https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/13656Mon, 24 Nov 2003 01:15:30 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Skarkill Vs Raptor on Sun, 23 Nov 2003 04:17:22 GMT]]>

how can u not vote for someone because of somthing they took part in, in the past? You work for the bbc?

No, I said I CAN'T not vote for him. Meaning I must vote for him. (admittedly my use of double-negatives is confusing and an affront to the Queen's English) Because Rayener Bourton was in Rocky Horror, my loyalty to that obsession takes precedence, therefore I have to vote for Skarkill. This conflicts with my loyalty to my pirate obsession, represented by Raptor. So the deciding factor is that of being flattened by a dragon.

In other words, I'm not being very rational here. (though it all makes perfect sense to me)

]]>https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/13628https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/13628Sun, 23 Nov 2003 04:17:22 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Skarkill Vs Raptor on Sun, 23 Nov 2003 01:02:25 GMT]]>how can u not vote for someone because of somthing they took part in, in the past? You work for the bbc?

]]>https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/13624https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/13624Sun, 23 Nov 2003 01:02:25 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Skarkill Vs Raptor on Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:11:22 GMT]]>Well Skarkill always was the best

]]>https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/13618https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/13618Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:11:22 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Skarkill Vs Raptor on Sat, 22 Nov 2003 12:05:38 GMT]]>This must be a very "Un-LOVLEY" experiance for poor Raptor he is getting slaughterd

Skarkill: 9             Raptor: 0

]]>https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/13607https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/13607Sat, 22 Nov 2003 12:05:38 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Skarkill Vs Raptor on Sat, 22 Nov 2003 02:56:49 GMT]]>I think I'll have to sit on the fence here. Having a pirate obsession, I would normally vote for Raptor. However, Skarkill is played by Rayner Bourton, and because of his Rocky Horror links I can't NOT vote for him... Bugger.

Oh sod it, I'll vote Skarkill on account of Raptor never having a dragon dropped on him.

]]>https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/13601https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/13601Sat, 22 Nov 2003 02:56:49 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Skarkill Vs Raptor on Sat, 22 Nov 2003 01:28:35 GMT]]>The only thing i didn't like about skarkill was his voice.

but he did get down to it.  And never afrade to ask Fear for more gold/goblins, Another vote

]]>https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/13593https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/13593Sat, 22 Nov 2003 01:28:35 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Skarkill Vs Raptor on Sat, 22 Nov 2003 01:12:54 GMT]]>Skarkill is the best of the two hands down!

]]>https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/13592https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/13592Sat, 22 Nov 2003 01:12:54 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Skarkill Vs Raptor on Sat, 22 Nov 2003 01:05:36 GMT]]>HOW ARE THEY BIASED ?   😮 😮 😮

]]>https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/13589https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/13589Sat, 22 Nov 2003 01:05:36 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Skarkill Vs Raptor on Sat, 22 Nov 2003 00:29:13 GMT]]>They're a bit biased these debates - Skarkill vs Raptor, Scaramonger vs Bartram, Pickle vs Majida....  ;D

]]>https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/13581https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/13581Sat, 22 Nov 2003 00:29:13 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Skarkill Vs Raptor on Fri, 21 Nov 2003 16:28:35 GMT]]>Sorry, but 6-0. Again, most latter (6-8) characters aside from Rothberry, Lissard, and Romanha were worse than the ones they replaced so Skarkill - LOVELY.

]]>https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/13538https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/13538Fri, 21 Nov 2003 16:28:35 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Skarkill Vs Raptor on Fri, 21 Nov 2003 16:21:25 GMT]]>I feel tempted to put one for Raptor, basically to even up the score a bit, but...

Skarkill 5, Raptor 0.

]]>https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/13537https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/13537Fri, 21 Nov 2003 16:21:25 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Skarkill Vs Raptor on Wed, 19 Nov 2003 20:11:23 GMT]]>So The Score At the Moment Is

Skarkill 4.      Raptor: 0

Now Thats.

"LOVELY"

]]>https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/13449https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/13449Wed, 19 Nov 2003 20:11:23 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Skarkill Vs Raptor on Wed, 19 Nov 2003 19:51:52 GMT]]>Skarkill wins hands down.

Raptor never really did it for me, he was rarely a threat to the dungeoneers and goodness why he was teamed up with Miremen in his sole Series 8 appearance when goblins were clearly visible in Team 5's quest (although that team were eventually killed off by Miremen).

]]>https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/13445https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/13445Wed, 19 Nov 2003 19:51:52 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Skarkill Vs Raptor on Wed, 19 Nov 2003 09:44:05 GMT]]>I really like Skarkill and so after watching his great role in S5 then he pips it for me!  ;D

]]>https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/13394https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/13394Wed, 19 Nov 2003 09:44:05 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Skarkill Vs Raptor on Wed, 19 Nov 2003 02:55:20 GMT]]>I'd better explain the comedy value rateings.

The resone I gave Skarkill a 6/10 while Raptor got a higher score of 9/10 was as follows.

I always thought of Skarkill as a character who was created to scare the "Watchers" he was a more serious caracter and there for the type of hummor in his scenes is of a darker natuer.

Example his catchprase "LOVELY" should be (and is) funny but it is deliverd in such a bloodthirsty way especialy to dungeoneers that it also unerves the viewers because they relise that  Skarkill is realy sadistic and enjoys his job.

Where as with Raptor I always felt that he fell in to the same catagory as Sly Hands & Snapper-Jack a comic character who under the right conditions could turn nasty e.g. Sly's killing of January. The character never gave any hint (at lest to me) that he was supposed to be taken serriosley.

Example when ever Skarkill was beaten off you felt a sence of relife on the part of the dungeoneer and his advisors where as when Raptor fled the scene e.g. when Smerkinoff burt his backside with a fierball not only did the watchers laughe but the addvisors did as well (This happend with Skarkill only once in his very first apperenc in the second episoed of S5.)

So the comedy value is a meshurment of wether the character was mainly used for comic relife, not of wether or not they were funny.

(Hope this make sence)

]]>https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/13393https://www.knightmare.com/forum/post/13393Wed, 19 Nov 2003 02:55:20 GMT