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    WhiteDevil
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    I definately think that releasing them on a series-by-series basis is the best option. This way each Series has its own additional features, or extras... I would prefer to buy a DVD with the whole of Series 1 on, than one with Series 1 and half of Series 2, then ive got to buy another DVD to see how Series 2 finishes...

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      RoxxAatherton
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      Going back to the openings/credits debate, which really wasn't a debate at all, but anyway. They have to put the credits in, right (which last all of 30 seconds anyway) and those of you who like to watch the openings and credits can watch them and those of you who don't can use the little button on the dvd player that says 'skip' hurrah! problem solved.

      And as extras there's surely got to be cast and crew interviews...

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        MoanaLiza
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        As well as outtakes!

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          Moocowthingy
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          To do cast and crew interviews increases the price of the DVD if you do new ones.  The cost of a crew, travleing, paying the actors, editing the interviews etc etc etc dont  come cheap.  Stick to the episodes and price can be reduced.  If the price is 12.99 per series thats still over 100 in by the time series 8 is out and thats a fair amount of dibble.

          Im old enuf to have seen KM first time around on ITV.  Ive been talking to my mates recently, who are 28 or around.  They all enjoyed KM and weve been having good talks about it down the pub on a friday, BUT they arnt watching it on challenge even though Ive told them its on and when its on.  The original KM generation ( which I count as 10 plus at series 1 start ) are vital to DVD succes.  As over 5 million watched KM its importat to get them buying it or it wont work.  I honestly cant see any of the people I knowpaying 12.99 for a dvd of one series when they arnt even watching it on the TV.

          Im just being honest, I think its a hard sell.

          As Km has never been aired on terrestrial TV since its original showing I honestly dont see the new generation of KM fans being large enuf to support a DVD release.

          To the original KM watchers KM is just a memory, somehow that memory needs to be made into an attractive DVD offer.  In basic I think that means cheap and cheerful and I dont think they will give a monkeys about extras.

          To me and you people who still watch KM and post here extras are great, but to Joe public who hasent seen KM since being a teenager I dont think it will matter.  When its on the shelf people will buy it from memory of a great program, if its cheap enuf.

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            RoxxAatherton
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            The man does have a point. Bugger

            Although if you just did 2 or 3 interviews they wouldn't be that expensive would they?

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              Malefact
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              That is a point. However, it has been said, by beveryafraid himself, that GM are now genuinely interested in doing a release. This would not be the case if they didn't think it could sell. Furthermore, they have said that they would need to sell 2000 units for the venture to be worthwhile. 2000 out of 5 million. That may not be such a hard sell as you think.

              Regarding special features, extras, etc., I can only reiterate what I've said a couple of times before.

              1. Outtakes

              2. Deleted Scenes (cut for time, etc.)

              3. Commentary

              4. Scene Selection (in order to select teams, etc.)

              Plus, the pilot episodes and other assorted goodies, such as the Chromakey Experiment.

              Series 1 could fit onto a single disc, allowing a second disc to be crammed full of goodies, a la Red Dwarf.

              I also believe that a series-by-series release would be best - it would certainly be the safest move financially.

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                Fan
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                I think they should release a box set of DVD's with every series.  Either way they make them, They should load the discs with extra features.

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                  MoanaLiza
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                  And are you willing to pay the price for the lot (8 sets) though? Can you afford it? It's not like that way is going to be cheep. It will be really expensive, which I certainly could not afford. I may just be able to afford one set though!

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                    Well you say that but they wont all come out in 1 go, I.E the Simpsons DVDs come out 1 season a year and so does Red Dwarf. It would take a while to compile all the extras.

                    On the question subject

                    1. Set would have to happen as much as I would like it all on one

                    2. i would like to see some extra content otherwise I might as well just video it from challenge

                    b) Deleted Scenes, Outtakes would be great, Some Commentry possibly TC talking us through some of the dungeon rooms/traps and info on them or another of Treguard talking about what he thought of the teams.

                    1. I agree with the format of choosing a team. Intro and Outtro needed, you cant remove time out!

                    4)I hope it wont cost too much as 8 series at 12.99 even yearly is a wee bit costly but I think KM is worth the price tbh

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                      And are you willing to pay the price for the lot (8 sets) though? Can you afford it? It's not like that way is going to be cheep. It will be really expensive, which I certainly could not afford. I may just be able to afford one set though!

                      I would buy all the series DVD's as they come but I doubt they will release them all in one set.  Even if they did (Which is very unlikely)  A set of eight DVD's wouldn't cost lots.  The James Bond 007 DVD set contains 20 DVD's and it's cost is £140-£160.  A set of eight DVD's would cost far less than that.

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                        MoanaLiza
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                        I thought you meant loads of dvd's like one per episode or something to that effect, not one per series. I certainly could not afford to get all of them if there's one per episode. (I have worked out in my head that there was about 114 episodes. I may be wrong though.)

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                          Fan
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                          I doubt it would be one disc per episode.  There's a lot of DVD's which have movies which are more than three hours long plus about an hour or more of extra features. I think they could get far more than 1 episode on to the disc.  They could probably get the whole of series 1 on to just 1 DVD and maybe the others as well.

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                            KM on DVD would sell i think, there are a lot more fans out there than you first think. I for one really hope it does happen

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                              Fidjit
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                              1. Would you prefer one or a set of dvds?

                              Probably a set or one would be nice with a selection of episodes on startup...

                              2a. would you like other thing included?

                              Yes

                              b. If so what would you like?

                              How the program was made I would think... Interview Tim Child or Hugo Myatt and any other characters.

                              1. How would you like the format?

                              i.e. would you like breaks/episode endings, with perhaps things added, etc.

                              Theme Tunes would be good, endings (with no voice overs of course)

                              1. If you would like input any ideas what you would like?

                              See 2b

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                                KM on DVD would sell i think, there are a lot more fans out there than you first think. I for one really hope it does happen

                                Yes.  I can't wait to see if it comes out, because the show would be better on DVD than on TV because you could watch it anytime you like.  Past episiodes that is.

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                                  Lowebo
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                                  1. Would you prefer one or a set of dvds?  

                                  One Boxset would be cool, but i think options for both?

                                  2a. would you like other thing included?  

                                  Yes

                                  b. If so what would you like?  

                                  Interviews, Slow Hand, Behind scenes, blue room technique

                                  1. How would you like the format?  

                                  i.e. would you like breaks/episode endings, with perhaps things added, etc.

                                  Episode start and finish no breaks!!!!!

                                  1. If you would like input any ideas what you would like?

                                  The 8/14 DVDS (1 for 1 and 8 def?) have a pattern on spine with logo?

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                                    GrimaldineGrimwold
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                                    The expense thing is definitely a good point. If it's to sell enough copies, the thing mustn't be horrendously overpriced. Thus if certain extras do push the price up a lot, I think most people would gladly forego them. In fairness, though, if it was arranged well enough, interviews etc. might not be too costly. Based on what Tim Child said, an official DVD release might earn the actors at least a little cash, so hopefully they'd be pretty willing to contribute in the expectation of getting some return in the future. I guess whether extras and such are included also depends on what type of thing Granada want to release- they may only want to release the bare minimum without any fuss, or they may want to mark it properly and make the best KM experience they can with all the possible material.

                                    I think I'd prefer it on lots of DVDs- if it's possible, then 2 per series. The fact series 1 and 8 are shorter is pretty convenient since I suppose those are where most of the extras would naturally fit. Although it would indeed be expensive to have to pay £15 or so for each set, as others have said, it would probably be over a few years. Just think of all the things you buy fairly regularly like that that you wouldn't consider buying all in one go, and it seems a lot more feasible.

                                    I'd personally like to see extras, and I hope it's decided to do it properly like that, so long as it's not thus made horribly expensive. My few thoughts on possible extras-

                                    1. Commentaries/Interviews/Features.

                                    These are great on other DVDs. It needn't be lots of different commentaries, but could still include lots of people with their comments edited together naturally. There's 4 main commentaries I can think of right now-

                                    a) Tim Child.

                                    b) Other production staff.

                                    c) Hugo Myatt.

                                    d) Other actors.  

                                    In some cases interviews might be more appropriate, with special features on certain aspects- for example, on how Smirkenorff was created an operated. The commentary and interviews could include so much stuff, from what the actors/production crew thought of the teams, how different effects were done, where ideas came from, recollections and anecdotes etc. etc. Whether within the commentary or, if there was enough of it, separately, it'd be great to have something about how an episode was put together, from pre-production through the filming process to all the post-production and editing stuff. Having seen what Jenna and Andrea posted recently, it's be really interesting to hear this story properly from the other side. Perhaps also for each series it'd be cool to try to get together members of just one of the teams so we can hear the story from their point of view too- all about the audition process, the filming and such.

                                    2. Deleted Scenes/Outtakes.

                                    Not sure what would still exist, but I'd especially like to see the outtakes, if they're still around. Edit them together and set them to music for each series and you've got something great.

                                    3. Scene Selection.

                                    Yep, would be good to be able to select it by episode or by team. (Personally, I'd rather leave the start and end of episodes in.)

                                    4. Animations and Title Sequences.

                                    It's be good to have the life force sequences on their own somewhere, plus information on how they were put together, which might fall within 1. Perhaps also falling within 1. is some mention of how the title sequences were developed- oh, and the theme music.

                                    5. Actor Biographies.

                                    Pretty self-explanatory.

                                    6. Information on other Broadword/Televirtual projects past and present.

                                    It'd be good to have a history of their developments, and a little about their other TV and non-TV projects. Copyright permitting, it could include a few clips of other homemade programmes.

                                    7. "Other" Knightmare Episodes.

                                    The pilot would be a great addition for the Series 1 set, and it'd be nice to see the American pilot that TC once mentioned existed. Again copyright permitting, how about a little of the foreign versions, maybe just a few clips, or a whole episode if space permitted, just to compare and contrast. Again, it'd be great to hear TC and other developers talking about selling the format to other countries and what types of products were thus produced.

                                    8. Miscellaneous.

                                    Perhaps including any more original artwork, designs, plans etc. that still survive.

                                    9. An extra scene.

                                    It's pretty silly, but I had the idea of trying to put one of the actors into their original costume for each DVD set and filming a scene for the end of the DVD. It could be nostalgic or comical to suit tastes, and a different actor for each series DVD set. Just an idea.

                                    I could think of more or develop some of these a bit but that's enough for now, I guess.

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                                      FrightKnight
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                                      3. Scene Selection.

                                      Yep, would be good to be able to select it by episode or by team. (Personally, I'd rather leave the start and end of episodes in.)

                                      4. Animations and Title Sequences.

                                      It's be good to have the life force sequences on their own somewhere, plus information on how they were put together, which might fall within 1. Perhaps also falling within 1. is some mention of how the title sequences were developed- oh, and the theme music.

                                      I could think of more or develop some of these a bit but that's enough for now, I guess.

                                      Blummin' 'eck, there's a lot here! I'll just add my small contribution, in that if they can leave the introduction of Father Ted, Dangermouse et al alone in DVD compilations, then Knightmare title sequences should remain intact. It didn't look too quirky on my video tapes...

                                      Include all the types of theme music as well, of course...

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