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    smirkenorff
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    I think that the DVD campaign is great- but what about VHS? I haven't got a DVD player- I've only got a VCR, and am not going to get a DVD player. Does anyone know if Knightmare is considered being released on VHS?

    Although it would probably be a good idea - VHS release is extremely unlikely. VHS tapes are being phased out more and more, and the cost of DVDs is only a fraction of what a standard videotape costs, therefore there is a much higher possibility of getting a DVD release, than on VHS.

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      Lowebo
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      That's true Smirky, plus we could get extras on the DVD! Like Stilleta and Romanha/Marta backstage changing?! Apologies!!! Seriously though, American version? The pilot? Besides, if you can, if you save £10 a month for 5months, get a DVD player in WHSmiths! (Don't work there! Work at Yates'!)

         Anyway, is there any news yet? Has it been posted? Don't keep us in suspense!!

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        Motleyolaf
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        Could you not have the extras on another cassette? Just an idea. And, VHS would be available to everyone, whereas DVD wouldn't. In terms of price, VHS is cheaper to buy than DVD.

        Yates... is that a shop? A few years ago there was a Yates Wine Lodge nearby...

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          smirkenorff
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          Could you not have the extras on another cassette? Just an idea. And, VHS would be available to everyone, whereas DVD wouldn't. In terms of price, VHS is cheaper to buy than DVD.

          Yates... is that a shop? A few years ago there was a Yates Wine Lodge nearby...

          True, but in terms of production cost, dvd's are cheaper than vhs.. With dvd's you can get all the extras on the same disk, rather than having to buy another tape - making it cheaper to buy 1 DVD with extras for, say £13, rather than 2 VHS's for £16.

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            Motleyolaf
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            Aren't all T.V series released on VHS aswell though? I've got a number of video sets of recent T.V series on video tape. I reckon you'd only need about 10 5 hour tapes for the all the series. Quite a lot- but not too many.

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              You really do have a point, sir - and I know it's one that Kieran especially would strongly voice for. It's still very early days to just disregard VHS as a form of media. True, the tides are gradually turning, but the fact still remains that VCRs are more frequent than DVD players. It's true that it ha become second nature to include extras on a DVD, being as they are, versatile - yet, as this good sir states, the options are by no means impossible when dealing with VHS. Now, as for cost - this is where the interest lies. It might cost more to produce VHS packages - smaller capacity; therefore more actual media needed. However; I will be honest - I can't think of many cases where I've seen the retail cost of a VHS set at more than the DVD set... or any standard film or the such. I can't say much for the costs of DVD production; but even if it is relatively efficient and iinexpensive, new releases will hit the market at a penny shy of £20 normally, with a few pounds off here or there.

              I just still think there's demand for VHS out there for now - and might go as far as to use the word 'discriminatory' if official releases were conducted - on DVD only. I can think of far more reasons pro DVD than anything else, definitely more so than VHS; but the fact remains that all fans out there will likely have a VCR; about half will have DVD players; that counts for a great deal. Anyhow, why let us argue down VHS; if there is to be a release - let us have the best of both worlds.

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                seanyboy
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                has anyone had any feeback about the petition for the dvd to be released yet?

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                  MoanaLiza
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                  As far as I know we are all still waiting and I also presume that Pickle hasn't heard anything from GM or he has forgotton about us. I would think that if he or anyone hears or finds out anything I am pretty sure it will be posted on the main site. But so far there's nothing as far as I know anyway.

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                    Illusion
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                    Granada did not respond to the petition, and I understand Pickle is/has sent a reminder letter to them requesting any comments.

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                      But wasn't it Anglia Television who gave us Knightmare? And isn't this topic better suited in the BBK section of the forum....

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                        Illusion
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                        Granada now own Anglia TV.

                        BBK section... hmm yes probably.

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                          GrimaldineGrimwold
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                          It's strange. Usually if you sent something like this to such a company, you'd at least get a letter of acknowledgement. Most companies at least respond, even if they're not overly helpful or supportive of what you're asking about.

                          Anyway, so long as it was indeed sent and received, here's hoping.

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                            Yes I hope we at least get some feedback after all the effort!

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                              Kieran
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                              With the amount of signatures, I don't see the petition making any major impact with them, sadly.

                              We need a few more thousand methinks.  Still, they may see it has popularity on Challenge? too, and give it some thought.

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                                Skarkill
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                                Well I just hope they give the idear serious thought befor dissmising it.

                                At the moment untill we hear anything I think all we can do is wait and hope.

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                                  Kieran
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                                  We certainly shall hope.  I think if we be realistic and hope fir them within, say, 5 years, no sooner, then at least we'll be in good gear for a wait  🙂

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                                  • KaMK
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                                    Nods I really think it's the biggest shame that DVD format was not in circulation around the time of the 90s - for I'm of the opinion that Granada aren't believing of the significance of KM's backing. What it really needs is the 5 million watchers it left with to appear on desks next week, which, obviously can't happen, given that KM sadly struggles to make any impression on Takeshi's Castle and/or the Challenge TV viewing figures. While it's wonderful that the figures have appeared strong enough evidence for Challenge to have pursued extra series, the figures don't scratch the surface of CiTV's huge following back then. The petition that was sent barely scratches the surface of the whole Challenge audience - so, in relative terms, our petition is like putting a tree in front of Granada's gushing river, when a dam of huge audiences and petitioners is needed. I believe that for all the superficial talk and interest (which obviously isn't superficial from most of us, but we as a forum only total 420-425 at time of writing), Granada might deem that KM is becoming obsolete for the modern day child/adolescent, and that craving fans well above the age the show was intended for do not provide ammunition enough to fund a release.

                                    An argument I peel up is why shows with proven smaller popularity have found their way to DVD releases. The issue there, however, is that smaller media companies are releasing these, not all (if any) dealing with GMedia I doubt, and acquisition of the rights to purchase and distribute will both cost less and be less complicated than those for KM. Obviously, all the actors involved would earn royalties, and would likely need to be consulted - and then settlements agreed - something tells me that if the new KM really, and this is REALLY, lifts off - the £$£Millions£$£ are the numbers that count, and those would be the clinical figures that could persuade GM of the interest still being there. As I've said a few times before, the audience could be phenomenal, for all the old KM fans were great in number, and now there's the generation below us, just waiting for a KM-type phenomenon to grip their lives: I just think that's the solid proof that is needed to see DVDs come out. I will keep my fingers very tightly crossed indeed!

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                                      JoeGrocottJames
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                                      As for the reminder letter, has this got a reply yet?

                                      Incidentally, with the DVD petition, I would like to see a response immediately (rather than waiting until the next site update), even if it is just an unsatisfying letter saying no. So, please Illusion, if there is a rely (even saying no), could you let us all know straight away?

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                                        As he has said elsewhere on the forum, all important knews will be announced immediately reguardless of the monthly updates

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                                          Illusion
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                                          Absolutely.

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