Legal Knightmare DVDs
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Consider this post my pre-order. (What I've really been hoping for are legal Blu-Rays of Fun House: The Mullet Years, but some dreams must wait a little longer than others.)
we are discussing a few ideas on how we can pump any profits back in to the community.
Were there to be any profits made from this, I'd prefer to see them going to a children's charity instead; though obviously that is thinking ahead.
Alan, wherever this endeavour ends up, thank you for bringing it this far. I have a few questions, which you can dodge or address as you see fit.
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Please, who are the mysterious 'we'? When they're being referred to up to a dozen times a post, I'm afraid it is difficult not to get curious.
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Is Tim Child involved, and if so, is it linked to this?
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You've said that the new Knightmare.com going live is an important of this process; do you have a planned date, rough or exact, for that?
email Nic to send a global to all registered users.
As Admin, therefore equal in rank to Illusion, Alan has the power to do this all by himself. I agree that it's worth a try, considering how much swift enthusiasm it gathered when Nic tried it in 2007. Imagine all those people saying 'Yes please' to Knightmare DVD purchases.
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You're absolutely right, the ones I've got are tv grabs from Challenge. Took me a while but I did manage to get all 8 series. And yes again, the quality on some isn't fantastic. Free downloads in exchange for a donation......ok, deal
I'm doing my best to make this succeed, or at least get names on this thread. Dream come true and all that.
Well, in thanks for your kind donation, we may give you some free downloads
Seriously though, we're not in a position to judge this kind of thing yet.
All I will say is that the online versions that are floating around are (I understand) TV grabs from Challenge. The versions that we'd distribute would be digitised copies of the master episodes and therefore, significantly higher quality. It's even possible that we can get them in HD format.
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I reckon 95% of us would support it
i know that for sure@:) Great news then:) Its een quite ut this coudl just be the thing to maken it happen
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Were there to be any profits made from this, I'd prefer to see them going to a children's charity instead; though obviously that is thinking ahead.
I'm not in a position to discuss this at the moment and based on the current low level of interest, I think it might be very wishful thinking to say there'll be any profits at all. Suffice to say that my current hopes are to treat any profits in a democratic manner. Though that might change.
Please, who are the mysterious 'we'? When they're being referred to up to a dozen times a post, I'm afraid it is difficult not to get curious.
"We" are community members who have had an interest in the idea before now and have indicated a potential willingness to invest large sums of money. It sounds far more exciting that it actually is. I only used the term "we" so as not to make anyone feel excluded
Is Tim Child involved, and if so, is it linked to this?
I have not discussed the issue with Tim Child (though I would quite like to). I am not even sure if he's aware of our intentions.
I know nothing about Tim's SOMETHING STIRS. It's possible that he was also referring to getting Knightmare released on DVD. But I'm afraid you know as much as I do. You quite possibly know even more
You've said that the new Knightmare.com going live is an important of this process; do you have a planned date, rough or exact, for that?
It's more of a desirable part of the process rather than an important one.
A rough date would be a couple of months, depending on my work and KMV. If I didn't have KMV on, it would probably be done by now. Of course, I might be overlooking some enormous bit of work that's required for the new site
Yes please, leather bounded and bossed box set
An excellent choice, sir. That will be £250, please.
A leather bound boxed set would be excellent. But also very expensive
I reckon 95% of us would support it
If we could just get 95% of people posting on facebook, emailing everyone in their address book, and so on, we'd easily have the required number of people by now
The responses so far are encouraging. However, if we were to insist on having 4000 people saying "yes, I'll buy it!" before proceeding (a comment that one investor suggested was a suitable gauge of interest) we'll have to wait another year or so before we have enough. I'm not saying it won't happen without that, but we definitely need more interest than we have.
I also apologise for the secrecy, which isn't helping things. We're in a bit of a catch-22 situation here. We can't give an idea as to how sales would work without an idea as to how much interest there'd be. But of course, without telling you how the sales would work, many people won't be able to say if they're interested or not.
Anyway, there's been enough interest to continue looking in to things, which we'll be doing. There's actually only a couple of outstanding issues to deal with before we can make a good guess as to what's possible.
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I've slapped a comment on my Facebook Mystara. I may not get much or any responses but at least theres a smaller chance of people knowing whats going on round my area. Can you check it in case I've written something wrong?
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=578913008&ref=profile
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Excellent, good job. I'm sure it'll be fine
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Hi.
Just want to add my commitment to purchasing the official Knightmare DVD's on release. I've held off a LOOOOOOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGGGG time on purchasing recorded-from-TV copies on Ebay in hope of official DVD's being released. Tim Child's post last year about something stiring gave me hope so I've continued to hold off. I read earlier in this topic that this is nothing to do with Tim's post which makes me wonder what Tim was referring to, we haven't heard from him in a long time!?!
Anyway, you've got a buyer here, but I have to say I'd be interested in buying DVD's, not downloads.
Also, what are the mysterious unlisted episodes refered to earlier in this topic???
Paul Boland.
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I've made a post over at the Spoony Experiment, the guy who did that brilliant video review of Knightmare a while back. For some reason my settings will not allow me to post on the site again, but if you check out the forums in 'The Pit', you should find my topic posted under the name of DC. Last time I checked, there were a few people pledging to purchase, so take it into consideration when tallying the offers.
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count me in for the dvd's! i've been waiting for this since the end of series 8.
a good idea though maybe to have a little booklet in each series with behind the scenes photos or maybe some bio's of the characters. oooo.
brain thinking lots here.
embossed front to the dvd case of the helmet (a little like the simpsons special edition series?) or you could have the life source face and each series has a section coming off as it did in the best series ever.
opinions?
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I understand what you mean chrissyb, its called Life Force by the way but its a sweet idea. Red Dwarf DVDs were made in a similar way, along the spines of the DVD cases there was a logo, which, when all were collected made out the Red Dwarf logo. Perhaps the same could be done with the Knightmare logo too?
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I think people are getting very bogged down in the details of something which is quite a way from being done (if ever). The vague plan is that episodes will initially be available to download (only). Once enough sales have been made, we would look in to producing DVDs, perhaps with some extras. It is also our intention that if you have downloaded the episodes, you get a discount on the DVD price, although these are only our rough plans.
However, right now, we need to raise more interest. There is currently not enough.
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Has the suggested global email been sent yet? I'm sure that will get many informed and hopefully on board.
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However, right now, we need to raise more interest. There is currently not enough.
In an earlier post I saw you mention figures of 4000 to 6000 to make this project viable. I don't want to sound like a harbinger of doom but I have doubts we'll see that here. In that same thread you also said the Bring Back Knightmare campaign had 6000 signatures, so why not taken that as your numbers and run with it?
The problem I see is that, in it's day, Knightmare has two million viewers (which according to CITV wasn't enough and so they canned it!! Twits!!). So where are those views now? Well, we've all grown up. I was in my teens when Knightmare was on, I'm now 33. Those original views have families, have moved on, perhaps even moved to other countries. Say Knightmare to them and they'll probably look back fondly, but they've probably not given the show a thought in a decade or so...
Now, of course, Knightmare is on other channels, channels I don't have access to sadly, so the last time I saw Knightmare was back when it ended. Yes, there are new viewers who love it. These new members come online and look for Knightmare and find this site. And it is those views who are posting here. But how many of the original viewing audience Google Knightmare? Some of us are here, I'm one, Knightmare is one of my all time favourite television shows and I'd love to see it again!! And the memories I have of being there, visiting the studios, meeting the cast, meeting Tim Child and his sister, Susan, meeting some of the teams... Knightmare really does mean a lot to me.
Umm... Might be starting to ramble now! LOL!!! Here's my point... You are needing a vast acknowledgement of interest to make the project viable. What I am saying is, while we have votes here, sadly not many from what I can see, I would ask you to consider the market that are not here, those who loved Knightmare but are not on this website. You said in the same post above that about 10% of voted interest would be buyers. Well, 10% of 2,000,000 orignal audience viewers is 200,000!!!
Of course, as impressive as that is, if the folks aren't here, those sales won't happen. So what I would like to put to you is the possibility of getting Knightmare DVD's on shop shelves... A lot of old television shows are getting television releases and I've invested in them having not given them a second thought for decade+, but on seeing the DVD boxset on the shop shelf it caugt my eye, reignited my memories of those shows, and down went my money to pay for the boxset. I'm sure a Knightmare boxset would catch many peoples eye, and it would reach a lot of the original 2,000,000 audience base. Then the sales you need would be met and surpassed.
If you need more proof that there is a market for Knightmare DVD's, look at Ebay. I've been watching Knightmare DVD's on Ebay for years, been very tempted to invest, and they always seem to sell, bids always go in. So imagine seeing on a shop shelf, a large black boxset with a Fright Knight on it and the word, Knightmare, embossed in red lettering... It would catch your eye and it would sell.
Just something for your consideration.
Paul.
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In an earlier post I saw you mention figures of 4000 to 6000 to make this project viable. I don't want to sound like a harbinger of doom but I have doubts we'll see that here.
It is appearing that way to us, too.
In that same thread you also said the Bring Back Knightmare campaign had 6000 signatures, so why not taken that as your numbers and run with it?
Well, you've partly answered your own question. If 6000 people signed the BBK campaign, why aren't 6000 people coming here and showing their support? The fact that they're not suggests that they may not be interested in paying for episodes that they may have already seen, or else they've just lost interest.
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So what I would like to put to you is the possibility of getting Knightmare DVD's on shop shelves... A lot of old television shows are getting television releases and I've invested in them having not given them a second thought for decade+, but on seeing the DVD boxset on the shop shelf it caugt my eye, reignited my memories of those shows, and down went my money to pay for the boxset. I'm sure a Knightmare boxset would catch many peoples eye, and it would reach a lot of the original 2,000,000 audience base. Then the sales you need would be met and surpassed.
The problem is the sum of money you're talking about. In order to get an entire box set of DVDs on shop shelves, we'd have to spend in the region of £100,000 up front. Even then, we'd need to convince shop owners that they'll actually sell to get them up on shelves.
None of us has that kind of money, even if we pool all our worldly assets. We certainly don't have that amount of money to potentially lose.
By all means, if you do, or if you know someone who does, please get in contact.
If these things get off the ground, we will distribute episodes online (which requires a much smaller upfront payment) until we've raised the additional funds necessary to produce DVDs. But if there's not enough interest, it just won't happen.
There's not much more that any of us can do. If ITV had an interest in producing the DVDs, they could do so for a fraction of the price. But we don't have the money to do what you're suggesting. So it simply can't work.
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