Legal Knightmare DVDs
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Sounds good.
I realise that the demand for DVDs is higher than for downloads. Our hopes are to allow people to "upgrade" from digital download to DVD - for the approximate difference in price between the two formats (remember: the DVDs will be more expensive).
Again, this all relies on a response from the rights owners.
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Right, here we go. I've made a couple of advertising banners. Ones big and the other is small:
http://www.geocities.com/glenn_toogood/kmpetition_slate.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/glenn_toogood/kmpetition_slate_sml.jpg
Hope it helps
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Right, here we go. I've made a couple of advertising banners. Ones big and the other is small:
http://www.geocities.com/glenn_toogood/kmpetition_slate.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/glenn_toogood/kmpetition_slate_sml.jpg
Hope it helps
There both excellent.
Nice one Glenn.
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Put a link on my blog. My blog is of course, read by everyone...
I'm up for it btw. If you could do something where its cheaper to buy the whole series and cheaper still to buy the whole lot, then that would be good. And to allow access to downloads, try e-junkie. They have download links for 5 days. No idea if it costs, but Paul & Storm use it, and its worked pretty well for me.
EDIT: It costs $5 a month. Maybe you shouldn't do that then
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Err mate. We're trying to do things legally here not the other way round. Its illegal for anybody to distribute episodes/series of Knightmare for a fee. Hope for your sakes Tim Child doesn't read this bud, he is a registered user here after all.
The whole point of this topic is so we can get enough people to offer their enthusiasm into a release of Knightmare on DVD. Then and only until then can it not be downloaded illegally
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Yes, there are new viewers who love it. These new members come online and look for Knightmare and find this site. And it is those views who are posting here. But how many of the original viewing audience Google Knightmare? Some of us are here
Assuming that you're stating that the majority of forum activity comes from Challenge alumni, with a scattering of CITV alumni (apologies if I've misinterpreted): I don't mean to cause offence, but I have to say that to the best of my knowledge, that simply is not correct. Although 'second generation' Watchers do occasionally make their mark (here is one that comes to mind), practically every post that this forum has ever had is from a Knightmare fan forged during the original showings.
And the memories I have of being there, visiting the studios, meeting the cast, meeting Tim Child and his sister, Susan, meeting some of the teams...
I always thought that she was Tim Child's wife, so thanks for clearing that up! Your account of your experiences is still top of the Site Highlights list on Knightmare.com's front page. Are you still making Knightmare games?
a good idea though maybe to have a little booklet in each series with behind the scenes photos or maybe some bio's of the characters ... embossed front to the dvd case of the helmet (a little like the simpsons special edition series?) or you could have the life source face and each series has a section coming off as it did in the best series ever.
opinions?
Knightmare DVD packaging has long been a fun hypothetical discussion topic. In my opinion, rather than lavish packaging with booklets, I'd prefer just to have the cover refer the buyer to Knightmare.com. It would save costs, make use of the information already available, and would feed activity back into the fan community. Or, as a compromise, a printable booklet could be made available on the website. This is all jumping the crossbow of course.
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Err mate. We're trying to do things legally here not the other way round. Its illegal for anybody to distribute episodes/series of Knightmare for a fee. Hope for your sakes Tim Child doesn't read this bud, he is a registered user here after all.
The whole point of this topic is so we can get enough people to offer their enthusiasm into a release of Knightmare on DVD. Then and only until then can it not be downloaded illegally
from page one of this thread
Internet distribution would be likely at first, since there's far fewer costs involved.
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Copypasta'd from journalist Richard Cobbett's KM blogpost comment:
Drop me a line if it happens. I’d certainly be willing to bug the guys I know on other mags and websites to give it coverage. I’m sure plenty will be interested in the retro-kick if they actually become available.
So chaps - if you do this, you will get respectable exposure for doing so. Something to bear in mind.
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Correctski - hence why it's all well and good guaging numbers now, but I think the serious kicking offs will ensue once the first steps are taken and season 1/2 is available - THAT'S when chaps like Cobbett can work their magic. And once the first articles start appearing, things go from there.
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The problem is that we'd need to generate around £10,000 to make series 1/2 available.
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Copypasta'd from journalist Richard Cobbett's KM blogpost comment:
Drop me a line if it happens. I’d certainly be willing to bug the guys I know on other mags and websites to give it coverage. I’m sure plenty will be interested in the retro-kick if they actually become available.
Mr. Cobbett's position seems contradictory, though. Reading his blog post, the first remark on this that one comes to is his reference, about half a dozen paragraphs in, to 'the DVD re-release that’s been talked about for years and probably won’t ever happen'. Perhaps he didn't realise there was a new campaign until after he'd made the post, but having his support for the campaign in the present would be as valuable as having it in the future. Professional connections aside, he is obviously, like the rest of us, rather fond of Knightmare.
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I think Drassil has an interesting point.
The biggest obstacle in the plot to get the episodes on DVD is that there isn't enough momentum to get it going. Once it gets momentum, it's fairly straightforward to keep things going since word of mouth and increased products kick in and raise awareness for us.
But if we can't raise enough interest now, it just won't get off the ground. We'll end up with half of series 1 being available for download, with the rest never able to follow and DVDs unable to be produced.
Personally, I think the levels of interest shown are too small for this to work. I'll keep making enquiries and will put up a full "call for interest" when the new site goes live. I might even be willing to throw some money at the idea. But at present, there's just not enough Oomph. People don't seem interested enough and we're not pulling enough people in. If the current levels of interest are anything to go by, the attempt to buy the episodes will stall, with most episodes remaining tantalisingly out of reach.
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Hey hey guys. I think it's a travesty that Knightmare hasn't been on our screens for a few years now and would support any commercial DVD release. There isn't really anything quite like it around today, it truly is one of a kind as far as kids TV goes. Who knows? Maybe a DVD release could spark interest for a Knightmare 2010... wishful thinking? Whatever, I'd most likely buy it just for any DVD extras.
Anyhow, I'll look into getting a post up on my blog at some point. Additionally, I've left a comment over at a recent post at Child of the 80s regarding the DVD release, and will continue to drop comments on blogs should I encounter them on my travels.
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Boom! Since I can't find out how to edit my previous comment, here's a direct link to the blog post I made this morning.
http://retroyakking.today.com/2009/10/02/knightmare-set-for-commercial-dvd-release/
I just reminisce briefly over the show and talk about how it may or may not be relevant to a modern audience. Nothing too fancy. I'm also gonna post an update on Sunday should I remember to do so.
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Hello
I think that I last posted here some six years ago and in the meantime my user ID was cancelled! I'm back now re-registered with the same one.
First up, I fully support a commercial DVD release and legal downloads, and I'll buy both if released. I've joined the Facebook group that stands at 177 members today and mailed contacts who might be interested or could be persuaded. However, I think that anyone who is banking on a definite release is setting themselves up for a fall. Please try and see this posting as realistic and not pessimistic and don't shoot me for what I'm about to say - Knightmare's original outing finished nearly 15 years ago now and the people still talking about it on this website are pretty hardcore, and I mean that as a compliment by the way. But things have moved on - Knightmare is no longer shown on TV as the Challenge rights have ended and those that campaigned for the channel to purchase the rights to show every series did a fantastic job but I think that was the best that we were going to get - I just think that too much time has passed and the interest that would have been there ten years ago, or perhaps even five has now dwindled. It's a real shame that Facebook and Twitter didn't exist back then as they would have massively helped our cause, but now I think that it's too late. Given the target audience, the original viewers are now aged somewhere between 26 and 38, so well into adulthood with the priorities and responsibilities that it entails. Many of us will not have the time and energy to "take to the streets" on this and so the best you'll get is what I've done. The majority won't even do that - as a nation, our worst trait is apathy.
At it's peak, Knightmare had 2M viewers but out of these, how many still remember the programme? How many had more than a passing interest? How many would care enough to buy a download/DVD? How many have found this website? How many would actively campaign for a release? The number gets smaller with each question answered. I don't believe that either the Challenge repeats or a possible download/DVD release will bring in those new to Knightmare in any significant number so we're just left with the old school (like me ). In addition, if a commercial (profitable) DVD release was worthwhile, it would have happened by now.
I've been a bit downbeat but I'll try and leave on a positive note - the only way that I can see the campaign working is to get it a higher profile. If anybody has access to someone in the public eye who is a potential influencer, we need to get them on board - their Twitter or Facebook postings could make a huge difference as people are more likely to listen.
I hope that I'm proven wrong and we get our DVD release.
Cheers,
Tiggy
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Did you read any of the previous posts in this thread? I think Mystara has been consistently realistic.
There are plenty of shows that have been off the air for years and have made it to dvd, I think part of the problem with Knightmare is its gameshow type nature makes it not obviously suitable for dvd release. you can't watch one episode in isolation and expect to follow it and there isn't a beginning middle and end per se, even if you watch a whole season - it just rolls on until they run out of time. And while an old episode of say Dungeons and Dragons the cartoon or the 1960s Batman can be enjoyed on more or less the same levels they were intended for when originally made, Knightmare was cutting edge at the time but is kind of an oddity now
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