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  • MystaraM
    MystaraM
    Mystara
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    I think the flaw in your logic is that people will pay £50 per series.

    I certainly wouldn't pay £400 for the complete set of Knightmare episodes.

    Our assumption is that people will be prepared to pay between £1 and £2 per episode, which brings us to approximately 500 people.

    Although obviously, the exact numbers depend on many factors such as distribution region, whether we can get the masters available as MPEGS rather than DVDs and how much the miscellaneous extras cost.

    More importantly, none of us HAS £75,000. The only way we can make the process work is to invest in buying a couple of episodes of series 1 (costing us around £1000). We then wait to recover those costs and reinvest by buying the next episode and making it available for sale.

    But if the required number of sales was never reached, we'd never regain enough money to buy the next episode and the buying process stalls. Either way it works out at 500 people wanting to buy the entire box set at about £75.

    We're even debating whether this is a good thing to do, since we can only get our initial investment back if the process works right until the end and it doesn't look there's sufficient support for that to happen. As the figures currently stand, it seems dead certain that we'd lose our money.

    And as was said before, this completely ignores the issues of DVDs which is what many people are after.

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      PKB
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      Aw, right, thanks for the clarification on the numbers.

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      • PookaP
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        Pooka
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        £500 an episode, and what is it, 20 episodes a season?

        Nope, it was eight episodes for season one, ten for season eight, and all the others 16. Not to say that it wouldn't still be pricey, bit if this plan were to go ahead, season one would be the cheapest (and most wise!).

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          Wow Mystara - thanks for the numbers, and I have to say that I'm rather shocked! Again, excuse my ignorance but surely a deal could be done given that it is a 15+ year old children's game show that will never see the light of day on a commercial basis again? I would have thought that some money is better than nothing for the rights holders...

          Anyway, there's a £113M Euromillions jackpot this Friday and if I get a sizeable chunk of that I'll be more than happy to fund a DVD release

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            Nope, it was eight episodes for season one, ten for season eight, and all the others 16. Not to say that it wouldn't still be pricey, bit if this plan were to go ahead, season one would be the cheapest (and most wise!).

            Seasons 6 and 7 had 15 episodes I thought giving a total of 112. So based on the estimated download pricing, a cost of £112 to £224 for everything. I don't think that's unreasonable at all given that you pay 79p per song at itunes...

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            • MystaraM
              MystaraM
              Mystara
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              #154

              I should say that my estimate of £75 came from a complete guess as to the number of episodes. I didn't bother to look it up.

              I don't know whether negotiation is possible or not, but I have to say that it seems unlikely. For one thing, we don't have a team of lawyers. For another thing, we're only proposing to buy one episode at a time and cannot guarantee we'll buy the later ones.

              What is comes down to is that if we get enough interest, we'll go for it and hope that it draws enough people in. As you can see, the costs are not small. But the project remains feasible. 500 people is not a lot.

              BUT the onus is on all of you to drag that support here. We've reached out to you. That's really all we can do. Now you need to reach out to your friends and get them to reach out to theirs.

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                azb0111
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                i would buy them, defiantly

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                  CNash
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                  Have you started a donation fund yet? I think this would be the best indicator of the feasibility of this idea - get the interested parties to put their money where their mouths are. Obviously you won't be able to promise anything, so set a cut-off date - say, one year from the start of the donation drive - where everyone who's donated would be refunded. I know that there are always costs involved with online money transfers, but AFAIK, refunding a PayPal receipt doesn't cost anything.

                  Start with a basic donation of £1 and invite people to contribute more if they can. Then if the donation amount is enough to secure the rights to a single episode, put it up for download at a price of around £2 or £2.50, with an offer to halve the price for those who have donated. With luck, the profit from the sale will be enough to secure the next episode. Of course, it's going to be a lot harder than that, but there are plenty of business models you could use.

                  Also, a bigger link on the main site would be a great marketing tool...

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                    BTW, are you aware that the link on the front page of the website is broken? There's a space in the middle of "knightmare" that shouldn't be there.

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                    • MystaraM
                      MystaraM
                      Mystara
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                      Fixed.

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                        Bumptious
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                        I would certainly be interested in purchasing Knightmare, were it to be released on DVD. I shall be encouraging as many people as possible to express their interest.

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                          MzBizkitz
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                          Wow! I'd definitely buy these DVD's ^.^ I'm going to spread the word immediately! Fingers crossed 🐵

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                            lemming2
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                            Im Interested I'd buy the dvd's

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                              GranitasIsCute
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                              Sounds exciting - I would certainly be interesting in buying them.

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                                jim-666
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                                I would buy all of Knightmare to download or on DVD. To be honest I would lobe a DVD of it but if it meant that I could watch Knightmare again I would be more than happy to download it and copy it to a DVD myself!

                                James

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                                  jim-666
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                                  Oh and I have posted a link to this website on the "Bring Back Knightmare" Facebook page (there was one there but it was posted last year) and on my own Facebook account. Hope it helps!

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                                    Olgarthoflegend99
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                                    I would buy them

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                                      mazzie
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                                      Hi me & my family would buy them. I always used to watch them home from school. My daughter has now seen a couple & really likes them. Shame it's not on Challenge anymore.

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                                        Elessar
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                                        I'd buy them, of course.

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