Well done, KM12345. Thanks for bringing attention to forumites the time involved in producing discs. I’ve done a lot of editing over the holiday, and it takes so long that sometimes I can’t be bothered. So for the Brollochan to simply assume that selling price less cost equals profit is unjust. Even unofficial productions have costs involved. Unless people resell other peoples unoffical work.

To Illusion…

It doesn’t matter if you’ve obtained permission from Tim Child. He doesn’t own the Intellectual Property to Knightmare – ITV do. Granada Ventures are merely a satellite group that deal with the merchandising of brands beyond broadcast. BUT, as Knightmare is no longer an active brand, and there are no current plans to bring Knightmare to DVD, it makes your point invalid.

Just enjoy the show, guys.

Last post, ever.

At the end of the day, it's about making money...

Granada make more money selling broadcast rights to Challenge than they could ever from actual DVDs. Corporations are the enemy, not individuals.

I know for a fact that copies are just a stop gap. Fans would still buy the original if it surfaced.

…Sigh… here we go again.

An official DVD will never happen.

Granada have already made a killing by selling broadcast rights to Challenge. SO… they would be shooting themselves in the foot if they released the DVD. After all, who’s going to watch the Challenge reruns, if they already own the DVD? The ripple effect, then would be, how can Challenge make money from advertising if Knightmare is no longer popular? The bootleg DVDs aren’t hampering an official DVD release, it’s Granada. And since Tim Child was working for Anglia at the time, all IP would belong to Anglia/Granada.

The only thing left, is to ask for the understanding of the seller’s, which, with full respect, Kieran, you have done.

I archive shows (much to the annoyance of my girlfriend) as a hobby. I enjoy archiving shows that I feel will never see an official release. Cystal Maze, Fort Boyard, Gamesmaster, Bad Influence, Frank Skinner etc.

The only reason Knightmare is up for sale is because I know people still watch it. But I refuse to sit in front of my computer burning discs for everyone for free. I pay for Sky subscription, and so can other viewers. But if you want the episodes neatly presently, and edited, then you can pay for it.

I know on the surface, people think a lot of money is being made. I don’t think so. It’s TIME and effort that is being sold.

Knightmare is being rerun in January so anyone that wants to watch it, can install Sky or whatever.

Sammy22… it seems cheeky of you that you would ask me to release the set to you for £10 and then go on about the legality of it all. I would have been more than happy to let one go for free.

DVD topics like this have been well discussed in the past and it seems pointless to go over and over what has been said and done.

However… the programme aside, I AM offering a service. Each Knightmare run lasts 6 months – equipment costs money, recording them takes time, authoring and burning takes time. Some viewers would find it more convenient to have all the episodes there so they can watch them in one go as opposed to getting up at 8am to watch them.

The feedback has been positive. Some customers have bought for their boyfriend’s; others have bought for husbands, and with every feedback makes me think archiving shows (not just Knightmare) is a worthwhile project.

ILLEGAL and ROYALTIES seems to come up a lot as an argument against the DVD trading. I haven’t reproduced anything that would hamper DVD sales – after all, how can I be harming sales of something that doesn’t exist? As for the royalties, I’m sure those involved are getting some from the Challenge reruns.

Until an official release is out, I guess your crusades to eradicate the trading seem pointless.