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1-4 or 5-8

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    PhoenixFlame
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    Personally, I liked the later series, as I was never keen on the 'scary' Treguard.  I always liked the more knightly Treuard!  Also, Fear did a lot more in the quests, because he had such useless minions.  Well, that's just my opinion!

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      Snowwiewolf
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      Later ones! I simply loved Lord Fear and his useless minions  ;D but I really missed the wall monsters form earlier series and the original helmet plus I liked thr steps in Merlins room

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        123Pooka
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        I think I'll go with the earlier series- they were tougher and possibly more exciting.

        However, series 5-8 were still a joy to watch. When Mogdred left, there could only be one person to replace him- Lord Fear.

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          Purgatory
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          everything after season 8  😉

          Before the 1st season where pretty good to

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            Moocowthingy
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            So teams the score so far is 3 to 2 in favour of the earlier series.  Will more strangers step boldly forward and alter the score?.

            Mephisto I think the answer to your riddle is, you like the Adventure game ( BBC ) and that thing that came after Knightmare with the name Ive forgotten .

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              WhiteDevil
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              Thing after Knightmare was called Virtually Impossible  ;D

              I think the earlier series are better, more suspense, althought the incidental music in the later series added to the suspense to..

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                Purgatory
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                I hate 'Virtually Impossible'

                Never heard of the 'Adventure game'  er

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                  Moocowthingy
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                  I hate 'Virtually Impossible'

                  Never heard of the 'Adventure game'  er

                  Well I cant pass judgement on Virtualy impossible as I never saw it.  As for the Adventure game it was on BBC and is quite a bit older than Knightmare so therefore I dont remeber that much about it.  A few of the things I do remember are that teams went into rooms by solving puzzels.  PUzzels were things like cross an expanse of water without touching it.  There were also some levels played on a BBC model B computer in a maze.  The final level had Computer graphincs and involved crossing an expanse of space on a zig zag track, I think it was called the vortex.  The last part was very Knightmare-esk.  I know Challenge were shonwing this not so long ago, dont know if its still on or not.

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                    Ouch, I'll struggle to make a choice on this issue. I think 1-4 always carry some sentimental significance, being the introduction and the early development of the game. And, I think they got it superbly right by S3: brilliant. The year before that was smashing as well. I do agree with the points of the opposition being more eerie and mysterious in the earlier series.

                    However - moving onto the later years - I think that as they tried to integrate more characters in there and operate the game more around interaction and communication rather than general knowledge and quick wit, the whole prospect of the opposition was a good focus, and still added major tensions, by knowing that the dungeoneer would be hunted from pretty much the first steps rather than encounter them later on. There was always a belligerent and competitive rail to the game in the later series as well, as Lord F was the embodiment to interact with the Powers that Be.

                    I don't think it totally fair to comment on the development as a whole, because certain aspects would have become possible for the later years that weren't in the earlier - and while I think S2 was good, taking a great step up to S3, and then disappointing with S4; I feel this is somewhat repeated by S5 being pretty good (recovery), taking real leaps to S6 and S7, and then disappointing a bit in S8.

                    If I answer the question in terms of achievement, perhaps - I think S5-8 would just edge it for me in watchability (altho. 3 is my fav, 7, 6, 2 and 5 are my following four, which would suggest the second half is just balanced in favour of the later years) - but S1-4 were of the best achievement. I'd always pinpoint in a show of this nature that the first years were the most important, because they hold the key to any future for it. KM started with a flourish, which was a real plus, and the level of consecutive improvements in the following two years to hit such a monumental S3, which in many ways set the show up for as far ahead as it wanted to run, was totally incredible - so I fight to a point each.

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                      Moocowthingy
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                      Thanks Redknight for your well thought out and balenced views .  Its somtimes nice to see an alternative view point so when I eventualy see some of the other series again I can look at them in that way.  We agree on one main point, S3 was classic, 3 question clue rooms, danger in most rooms and some great teams.  Unfortunatly it lacked the one thing, a winning team, but hey at least we know it wasent a fix.

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                        SrWilson3S
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                        I hate 'Virtually Impossible'

                        Never heard of the 'Adventure game'  er

                        Oh I totally agree with you on Virtually impossible you wouldnt belive how much I wanted to grab that stupid fish by its tail and slam it into the walls left and right.

                        The woman villian was a joke too she set em 40.000 points every week when she claimed she was gonna make it higher lol lame.

                        BRING BACK KM damn it!!

                        in response to the question ill go with 5-8 however 4 is a fave of mine too so i like series 4 - 8 hehe.

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                          Purgatory
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                          What pissed me off about Virtually impossible  was in the letter we got after Knightmare went off the air told us that Broadsword where doing this Virtually impossible show and i quite keen to see what i was like... i was looking forward to it... well after watching the 1st couple of episodes that was it...hated it.

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                            Galgarach
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                            I prefered the earlier seasons (partially coz of Martin Tool n the gang) and this sounds silly but the later series lacked the crap graphics that really made up knightmare. The first series were really creative as well, the later ones were to, almost, cartooney, with lord fear and the good versus evil type plot.

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                              KaMK
                              KaM
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                              Ermm. Hello all!  😉

                              Well, have to contest slightly, sir. I would hardly call the computer graphics for the earlier series 'crap'. I know you used that in a positive argument, but still - I think David Rowe's flair has always been fantastic where Knightmare was concerned, and his room creation artwork brilliant. Ok, it looks less advanced now than it did at the time, but for me, it still looks the part - the more vivid colours and slightly flatter looking and less dimensional images give me that more medieval and magical feel than the later years, which became more diemnsional - where the likes of 'Goth' and Levels '3a and 3b' of Series 8 give a much more sinister and macabre feel, which is what was created by the ever increasing intensity of the opposition and the challenges.

                              Other arguments would look at the technology available at the time, and also the budgeting towards a show with two years of building success rather than, for instance, series 7, when the show was a proven success and had the assurance of several great years behind it.

                              Yet I will agree that the earlier graphics 'made' Knightmare - the medieval look was classic, and complemented the gameplay to the highest possible extent. KaM

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                                Galgarach
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                                Well i was a bit harsh on the graphics, they were alright for that era.

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                                  Snowwiewolf
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                                  One thing that I loved about the earlier series: Mildread and the Medusa.

                                  No one was safe, not the advisors not even Treaguard! It would have been great if everyone was in danger in the later series!!!!

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                                    Malefact
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                                    I wonder if the Medusa could be classified as a Wall Monster.

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                                      Snowwiewolf
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                                      Hmmmm... She was on the wall in Knightmare, but in the mythlogy she was a lady, completely off the wall

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                                        Malefact
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                                        True, but then again it was referred to as 'a Medusa' rather than 'the Medusa'.

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                                          Snowwiewolf
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                                          Thats true enough....so there are more Medusas. Scary

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