Series 5 Episode 6
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The first spell of Series 5 - it took them a while didnt it ;D
Sorry to hear about that Lord Bob - Sisters can be a pain, i know...
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I think all you team 3 haters will get a treat tonight .
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Thank goodness they're finished.
I can see some reasons why they might have been slightly reticent about giving the gem to Elita, but they did need to make a decision and stick with it. I guess it's very possible they took even longer to decide than we saw in the final edit.
I'd have been a bit disappointed if they'd gone on to win after their antics in Level 1. As well as taking far too long, they were also one of those teams who often didn't seem to listen to what Treguard and Pickle told them. You don't try to talk over Treguard. You shut up and heed his words to the letter, or you may end up dead.
Treguard and Pickle seemed to think they'd done the best so far that season. Yes, they got the furthest, but I'm not sure they were the best team. Anyone have opinions?
Also, what do you guys think were the right clue objects to take in the Level 3 Clue Area? That's assuming there were 2 objects they needed- Level 3 is sometimes a strange place like that.
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What made me laugh when i saw it was treguard says i think theres a exit at the top right there - he guides them pretty much into the COB lol and after the killing he says elita could have saved you from this fate I was thinking LOL you told em to go that way. ;Dmebbe treguard was sick of em too.
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Well, a couple of things could have happened. Elita could have provided them with a spell to help them out. Alternatively, she could have revealed a different exit. This didn't happen, though, so the only exit was that at the back of the room.
It's pure speculation (fun though), but it is interesting that Treguard says "Elita might have saved you from this fate" rather than making it obvious that Elita would have helped them survive the Corridor of Blades specifically.
I think there are several possibilities if the team had given SuperDungarees the ruby in time:
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She shows them another exit. The room is kinda dark.
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She does her filthy little ritual with the ruby which reveals another exit.
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She gives them a spell to help them in the CoB.
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She goes along with them and helps them avoid the blades.
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She gives them information that the CoB is ahead and that they'll need to take measures to survive it before they enter.
It's a small possibility that the CoB was just there to kill them off quickly because the production team didn't want to waste time seeing out their quest until its logical end, which yields two more possibilities:
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She'd have helped them in a completely different way, and they'd not have been given the CoB.
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She'd have helped them in a different way; they'd have faced the CoB but at slightly less horrific speed. I noticed Sarah was VERY slow to respond to instructions- if a certain Grimwold had worked on the production crew, I might have been tempted to cut the sound to her at the crucial moment. Not suggesting they did that, however.
There are other possibilities, but for me those are the main ones. Many of them are easily plausible. She does mention "information" at one point, which may point to some rather than others, although it's possible she'd have given them information and help of a different kind. I'd put a small wager on #5, something like:
ElfDungarees: "Is that all you've got? Guess it'll have to do, you ugly slagrat. Tell you what, I'll give you a bit of information. Beyond that exit is the Corridor of Blades. You'll need to do something to survive it now because you won't have time once you get into it. Now f*** off so I can finish summoning Satan, you ****ing little ****."
Team talks about it in their true style for about 25 minutes. William makes some completely ludicrous suggestions about hiding things, and Helen bosses everyone around, including ordering Treguard to tidy up his beard. Sarah keeps repeating "What shall I say?" despite the fact she's not talking to anyone, and poor Keeley wonders how she let the others talk her into joining their team. Helen nags everyone a bit more, and the camera cuts to William whose look suggests he wants to jab his pencil in Helen's arm. I feel a moment of sympathy with him, and forgive him for the "hide the knife" episode. Finally they decide to cast the GHOST spell, which means the blades pass right through Sarah with no ill effects, apart from the fact we have to put up with the team for a bit longer.
[Oh, and despite my jibes at Helen, I do think she was on the right track a lot more often than her fellow advisors, especially in Level 3. I thought her comments when choosing clue items that level were very relevant, and she wanted to give Elita the ruby. Ironically, it was partly because she deferred too long to the other two that probably cost them.]
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I thought they should have used the ghost spell as well. Funny though that such a slow team got defeated by the fasted obstacle in KM. This new team seem pretty good (wink wink), not that we got to see much of a start to Ben's quest. Looking forward to Monday with great anticipation. One thing I like more from S5 compared 2 S3 is the status bar because If you miss something it appears so you know what they're carrying
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Also all the deaths this season seem to be accompanied by 2 dongs of the bell. In the last season there was either 1 or none.
I think that towards the end of series 1 and throughout series 2, it was usual to have two tolls of the bell, one as the life force was just running out, and another as it had gone.
But since the last time I saw those series was 1987 and 1988, I could be mistaken.
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Well, I must say their death was a bit of poetic justice. Sarah almost blindly wandered into that blade!
GG - how about sugggestion #8?
Team gives Elita Ruby. Elita says she would help, but she's just as sick of the team as a lot of us and wants to see them meet a grizzly fate.
Well, at least it'd give a hint they've got a grizzly fate ahead!
As for the Clue Room, my Dad and I (we tend to both watch Knightmare in the evening) both thought that the scroll suggested "Take the Ruby instead of the Key", so would have taken the Ruby and whichever other object was there (forgot what it was!).
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agree with the above comment the key was pointless..
Wasnt the other item a neckless? that elf woman asked if they had anything else.. i'm wondering if that would have been used to get the info.. after all i doubt she would have done even if the team gave her the rudy soon as possible.
But i doubt the blades were used to kill them off.. they were there because that was the next room.. and that with seen team do it with no trouble. spells aren't really needed.. and they only got killed because she was trying to pick up food and dogde the blade at the same time causeing he to get a little confussed which led to the slow reaction and getting sliced.
The thing with Knightmare is u have to play by the book..its all very simple. But what we saw of level 3 looked a bit dim.. that red room before the Blades looks level 3 like but the clud room didn't
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Well, I must say their death was a bit of poetic justice. Sarah almost blindly wandered into that blade!
Absolutely! The shot went from her to the advisors and then back again, and in that time, despite their calls to move to the right, she's seemingly run halfway down the Corridor directly toward the Blade!
GG - how about sugggestion #8?
Team gives Elita Ruby. Elita says she would help, but she's just as sick of the team as a lot of us and wants to see them meet a grizzly fate.
Well, at least it'd give a hint they've got a grizzly fate ahead!
Teehee, I really hope so, but then again, I'm an evil old crone.
As for the Clue Room, my Dad and I (we tend to both watch Knightmare in the evening) both thought that the scroll suggested "Take the Ruby instead of the Key", so would have taken the Ruby and whichever other object was there (forgot what it was!).
The other object was, as Mephisto mentions, a necklace. Personally, I'd have taken the gem and the necklace, like you and your Dad. It's why I mentioned it originally, really. I agree on the scroll clue. Although you might notice the word "key" in it and grab the clue key and run, I'm tempted to think it meant that the key to the dungeon was the gem and therefore wasn't a proper key. That is, a plain old key won't serve you. That may be the wrong interpretation, but it's what I thought.
The whole clue object choice thing is partly what I was waffling about when I said I could see why they were hesitant about offering the gem to Elita. I can think of a few reasons why they might not want to give it to her:
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Pickle has said some rather nasty things about her. It's at least plausible to think she might not be wholly trustworthy, although the evidence from their own Quest doesn't really support that, since she held to the bargain over getting them a ride on Smirkenorff.
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She's conducting some kind of ritual, thus I think they're not totally dense to ask what she wants to do with the ruby. If she's using it to summon evil spirits, create more disgusting and downright offensive clothing like her current attire, or something equally evil, then our "Truth and Justice" motto would perhaps make us question if we want to give her the means for the rite.
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Elita's unwilling to tell them much about what help she'll offer them in return for the ruby.
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"The key to my dungeon is the jewel in my crown." Note my dungeon, my crown. This is, I guess, Lord Fear's Dungeon, so it's at least plausible that the right thing to do is to keep the gem for the final encounter and not waste in on a smelly little cavern elf with no dress sense. It's also possible, of course, that the clue just meant "take the jewel because you'll need it", but I'm arguing not that it was needed later on, but that I can see why they had reservations about giving it to Elita.
GG does like trying to help excuse teams just a little, to balance out being rather bitchy about them. GG also seems to like making nice orderly lists. 1. 2. 3. Mmmmm, nice lists.
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I thought this team were good. Makes me a minority around here!
They should have taken the necklace instead of the key I think. The scroll hinted at the ruby and to avoid the key.
Still it might have been revenge for carrying Poison instead of Gwendoline's arrow in Level 1 despite a subtle hint from Treguard. They would have to be flawless to win after that blunder. In previous Series Gwen would have refused to help them and as a result they would have died on the Blocker.
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Actually, knowing me I would of taken the Key instead of the Necklace like they did, silly me, I never think about things properly.
But when the Dungeoneer was in the decender, did I hear her say "What's happaning Helen?".....She seems to have more respect for her than her fellow advisors, lol. Actually when she died, Helen(I think) looked absolutly gutted.
But......death by blades was the best bit. The Skull was nicely used.
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I say serves this team right, they kept taking too long over everything anyway and they were so stupid not to give the lady the Gem
The lady clearly hinted she wanted a gem, and said if you give to me to me, I will Help you, Also the team knew this lady was on the good side but I cant believe they debated about it. Hard to say what would have happened if they did give it to her in time, I reckon a sight Spell to see further in the corridor or blades or most likely she would have come along with her to help her dodge the blades.
Oh well, enough of her, now lets enjoy the winning team this coming week
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Oh well, enough of her, now lets enjoy the winning team this coming week
Cheers as I havent seen this in many years I do try and avoid the result you know just like with the football on a Saturday.
Anyway episode 6. Firstly the Gatemaster. Nice cossie great booming voice and I was after his speech expecting somthing. " Everything you have done before leads to me ..... now get in the decnder please pass go and collect 200 pounds ". I realy was expecting a question or somthing alike and maybe you would live if you got it right.
Does this team also get an award for being the defest team ever. Even when they do actualy hear somthing they want it spelt out TWICE.
I dont think being slow with the gem had anything to do with the COB death. Personaly I think that was just down to being slow in the COB. I think the advisors shout right 5 times and she hardly started to move. I dont think Elita would have gone with them r shown another exit personaly I think maybe she would have provided another spell or password or somthing similar.
A late reply to episode 6 but I had it on tape and only got to it today.
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- She goes along with them and helps them avoid the blades.
Only Gundrada's stupid enough to do that.
Besides, most of the teams that went through the CoB didn't NEED help. I think it's more an exercise in "How well can the advisers direct their Dungeoneer/can the Dungeoneer react to directions". Meaning that this team were doomed from the outset...
I dont think being slow with the gem had anything to do with the COB death. Personaly I think that was just down to being slow in the COB. I think the advisors shout right 5 times and she hardly started to move. I dont think Elita would have gone with them r shown another exit personaly I think maybe she would have provided another spell or password or somthing similar.
My sentiments exactly.
that elf woman asked if they had anything else.. i'm wondering if that would have been used to get the info.. after all i doubt she would have done even if the team gave her the rudy soon as possible.
Well, to avoid spoliers I'll just say watch out for how the next team deals with her...
I wouldnt go so far as to call Elita a lady
She'd probably be offended. I certainly would be...
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