Series 5 Episode 13 (Mon. 17th)
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An interesting episode indeed, my comments
They did indeed almost went away with one item at the start, It almost seems like they were about to direct Chris out of the room when Treguard mentions they can take another item, Were they slighty let off here.
they certaintly took their time on the causeway puzzle didnt they, and this just shows how badly Team 6 were treated for their causeway puzzle, they went through it a good pace I thought yet they died and Treguard said they were not quick enough, However this current team(Team 7) certaintly took slighty longer IMO to get across and yet they got across with no problems and didnt seem to be timed, Now YES Treguard does tell them to hurry up, but they still didnt hurry too much, Something is very suspecious about all that.
Can see how this team died though, whatever made them pick up the feather??? Chris's team mates even tell him to pick up the Jesters Stick and he does pick it up for a brief second, but he then decides not to pick it up,one word WHY, why he thought the feather was the right item to take is beyond me.
Also they had met Motley early in Level 1 so it should have given them a hint to take it back to him because he obviously lost it and that would have given them the password for the next blocker
Oh Well, Roll on Wednesday for the next episode.
BTW how many episodes of Series 5 are left, there cant be that many now surely??
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tbh I thought this team were really lousy. They lost BOTH of their clue room items to Skarkill and they took sooooo long on that causeway I half expected the whole floor to collapse. If team 6 were too slow then this team could be confused for being frozen! They got some questions right, made a real pigs ear of the clue room they werent going to use the spyglass or take 2 items until Treguard told them to. Roll on Wednesday to get rid of these snorers! Chris must be the blindest and deafest dungeoneer as he fails to see or hear half the things said to him or put in front of him. Awful team really, sorry to be so negative
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The final episode will be on Monday 24th.
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Of all the fantastic things you could wish to find in a chest, Elita has to be pretty near the bottom of the list!
I do think the team get away with a little, but they are very young- I don't know if younger teams were ever given a slightly easier ride. They were a bit icky on the causeway, but in fairness that was in Level 1, whereas the previous team died on the Level 2 Causeway, where I suppose you're not given as many chances. Chris was certainly very cautious on the causeway, although I suppose having seen teams stepping to their doom by moving too quickly, one can perhaps see why.
It did seem like they only needed the one clue object. Frankly, I'd have tried to use the gem first. It seemed logical to bribe him rather than use the honey, so I don't think they really did anything wrong there. I didn't like that scene epsecially much- it all seemed a bit contrived, to be honest, and RB evidently realised quite how unnatural the dialogue he had to deliver was. Treguard found it funny tho', if the chortling in the background was anything to go by.
I thought Mace's questions were pretty fair. Not sure how many they'd needed to get past (0, if the let-offs this year are anything to go by!) but the last question was pretty tricky, and none of them were really easy (coughcoughTeam4'squestionscough).
Elita's real name was kinda long. Did anyone catch it? Otherwise I'll have to get it from the video.
I do like this Team's Level 2 storyline, even though they don't get too many clues on what to take in the Clue Room. The scroll clue is a little vague too, like quite a lot of the clues this year.
Icy Sandra (Smelly Sandra's big sister) was hamming it up again. There's a kind of snarling expression she often puts on that just makes me laugh. She's just such a camp villain, even compared to the others! She doesn't like dungeoneers as a species because they're "hot and sweaty". I don't know dear, if they were 10 years older, I think that frozen heart of yours might melt just a little toward them for that.
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That is one week tomorrow and then it's all over again for now unless S4 is repeated again. It appears that James P has not been around on the Challenge forum answering some of the (KM) questions unless he's posted on other (programme) threads.
[Hey no sooner than I mention James P then...]
(Edit 23:35)
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Pickle these are so young, theyre almost new.
Who said young teams are given an easy ride? Remember Jeremy's quest from series 4. He was given an unnaturally tough quest which involved the 2nd room of level 2 being block and tackle and the 1st being a level 3 room with an evil statue, more at home in level 3!
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Who said young teams are given an easy ride?
No-one. Unless that's a rhetorical question, I guess you're referring to what I said. If so, best to reread it since I don't in fact say young teams are given an easy ride. In fact, I think they sometimes do indeed get an easier time, but only in certain cases, only in certain conditions and only "easier" in certain ways.
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hmm after GG's comment I am still not swayed into thinking they were treated fairly, they have been let off at least twice if not more and were definatly poorer than Team 6. I cant wait for Wednesday so we can get rid of them!
Ah, you've read what was said before commenting. That's always uplifting.
I actually agree with you. In fairness, on your original post, I don't think one can blame them for losing two clue items to Skarkill in the situation, as I argued before. As I said before, it's also hard to know how long they really took n that causeway compared to the previous team- and, as I think I also said, the level difference might mean something in how harshly team's causeway efforts were judged.
Okay, the caveats aside, here's the bit where I agree. They aren't a very good team. The advisors are a bit meek and often need cattle prodding to get going into actually advising. Chris not being able to read the menu is just bizarre and, even compared with other dungeoneers who must have had simlar problems with the sound quality, he seems to have a lot of trouble hearing. Their causeway effort was painful to watch, and they need better thought processes in the Level 2 Clue Room.
Poorer than Team 6? Again, I agree. I liked Team 6, despite their problems.
Looking forward to them getting killed off tomorrow? Again, agreed.
On whether they were treated "fairly", it depends what you mean. If you meant treated the same as other teams, well, perhaps it is fair, but only because so many other teams this season are also treated so unfairly in the second sense, i.e. getting what they deserve! There are so many obvious let- offs this year, plus a few occasions where teams are punished a little harshly, or at least not punished at what seems an appropriate time. Team 6 made mistakes, but instead of being punished then, were killed off on the causeway when- as other people have said, and at least in the final edit- they move as quickly as others who survived on the same obstacle. Team 3 had an obvious let-off early on despite an obvious mistake, and I think it's sad that they were allowed to get to Level 3, whereas Team 2, who showed a fair bit of ingenuity, and evidently went into losing status through not recollecting a small clue in a pressure situation, were killed off in Level 2. Or Team 4, who won without frankly meeting anything greatly challenging, who had clue object choices which I think were almost "choose anything and you'll be okay" whereas some of the clues given to other teams this year in clue rooms were quite hard to fathom, who got much easier questions in Level 2 than other teams had in Level 1, and whose final encounter with Aesandre I still half-suspect might have worked out okay whichever spell they'd chosen to cast. Or if they had been killed for casting the other spell, I'd think it was arbitrary given that some of the clues could equally lead you to cast that as to cast the other. That's the thing that gets me about this series- it often seems so arbitrary whether teams are allowed to survive or not, whether they get an easier or a rotten time.
That's another way of saying I too think it was pretty unfair., although as I've argued before elsewhere, fairness isn't the only virtue.
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Good Dungeon to you all on this fine morning! This episode provided us with some great quotes:
Advisor: "He's on fire now" (referring to the causeway)
Advisors: "Say Constantinople"
Chris: "What?"
Advisors: "CON...STAN...TI...NOPLE!"
Chris: "CON...STAN...TI...NOPLE!"
Some great bee effects in the room with Skarkill. And on the causeway, Chris really did come very close to falling off it near the end, didn't they? And later Brother Mace asked them 3 questions on the Crusades. Funnily enough, like them, I wasn't sure on the 3rd question and guessed con...stan...ti...nople- and whaddya know, it was right! In a rare moment for S5, the door opened to reveal Smirkenoff rather than the Decender.
The team almost avoided using the Spyglass in Level 2, but after a hint from Treguard used it in the end. Timed Out in a neato looking indoor market, and at Julius Scaramonger's stall for at least the second time this series.
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"I know her name but I just can't seem to remember it!"
Not quite Oscar standard action there.
Furthermore the team don't seem to have much confidence in there ability:
"If we go fire, earth and water we might make it across to the door."
Knice scene with Skarkill and the bees, bother they met Brother Mace who tesed them before they left level 1, managed to guess "Constantinople" so scored 3 out of 3.
Into Level 2, I don't thing we have ever had a team who had to go back to where they started on a level to get to the next level.
And how does Icesandre get around:
"I walk, my Lord. Gracefully."
Credits over the town with two women gossiping on the balcony.
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Really?
I don't have challenge, but this is the next best thing hugs everyone
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Good Dungeon to you all on this fine morning! This episode provided us with some great quotes:
Advisor: "He's on fire now" (referring to the causeway)
Advisors: "Say Constantinople"
Chris: "What?"
Advisors: "CON...STAN...TI...NOPLE!"
Chris: "CON...STAN...TI...NOPLE!"
Some great bee effects in the room with Skarkill. And on the causeway, Chris really did come very close to falling off it near the end, didn't they? And later Brother Mace asked them 3 questions on the Crusades. Funnily enough, like them, I wasn't sure on the 3rd question and guessed con...stan...ti...nople- and whaddya know, it was right! In a rare moment for S5, the door opened to reveal Smirkenoff rather than the Decender.
The team almost avoided using the Spyglass in Level 2, but after a hint from Treguard used it in the end. Timed Out in a neato looking indoor market, and at Julius Scaramonger's stall for at least the second time this series.
But Chris said it wrong - didn't he! He said CON..STAN..TIN..OPEN!
Hadn't he ever heard that They Might Be Giants song? Or that 1920s song that spells it out (c-o, n-s-t, a-n-t, i-n-o-p, l-E!!)?
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