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1-4 or 5-8

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    ojobob2
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    All in all, i prefer the early series. The reason is simple:

    The early format for Knightmare was like a Televised Computer Boardgame, almost like HeroQuest (if anyone remembers that) and the airbrushed scenes looked very much like cardboard rooms. I liked the way the dungeoneer would walk through a door, and as far as we knew, the next room could be anything. The later series - 5 in particular - are WAY too linear.

    I first started watching KM when S4 started, but i remember catching a bit of S3. Even aged 6ish, I thought that the older KM i had only briefly seen was way better and far more scary.

    Later on, many of the "hated" features of the new format began to work well, S6 in particular as it was tension filled and really gripping.

    I dislike S5 as the outside locations are too "normal" (i thought the previous purpleness was cool as it reassured us that this was a different reality/time/place. Also S5 really over used the eyeshield, in S4 and the later series it seemed to be used sparingly, when a player leaves a room. In S5 entire scenes are through the shield

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      Cull
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      #39

      To save me from writing any long-winded explanation right now... 1-4 >>> 5-8.

      Though I'd probably say there was a far bigger gap in difference between 3 & 4 than in 4 & 5...

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        Guest
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        I will have to say 1-4 even tho originally i dont remember much of it as I was only about 4 when S4 aired first time.

         Firstly the life force, the best by far heartbeat and real panic is set in by it. Secondly Mogdred and Malice etc great villians with a mysterious evil element. Merlin's chamber was good as well and the old crackpot always made me laugh. The fact that S1 and S3 were unbeaten leaves a certain element of mystery to it. In S3 and 4 then i thought Treguard was really good and came into the Knightly element of being the Dungeon Master.

           5-8 werent bad by any stretch, perhaps a little bland and too many outside elements and o lord the Eye Shield is really overused in S5 at the least. CoB is a good part but that was also in S4. Lord Fear and Skarkill are good but the opposition and powers that be element really makes it too obvious, I mean in S3 then their were so many "wild card" characters. Also The skeleton figure and the quiche are a joke when compared to original life force sequence and CoB as a shortcut is laughable and unfair.

             So to sum up then 1-4 were far superior in my opinion and i hope that it wins and that you enjoyed my insanely long post.

        (p.s: congrats to Grimaldine Grimwold for achieving 1500 posts !)

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          JamesA
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          Very close to call I reckon. 1-4 had Mogdred, more difficult quests (3 out of 39 champions compared to 5 out of 30 in the latter series) and a lot more sinister backgrounds - but 5-8 had Lord Fear, Smirkenorff, and as the series progressed the entire thing felt a lot easier on the eye in my opinion.

          I am voting for 1-4 in light of this because series 8 is a bit of a disappointment and even though there are some very good quests in 6-7, the earlier series give a good indication of Knightmare as it should really be.

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            Guest
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            So are there any more votes or is a result going to be called?

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              FrightKnight
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              Hang on a sec...

              late voter...

              But it really is exceedingly difficult to decide...S1-4 had just Treguard (and a more neutral one at that, no being on the side of the powers that be here...)... people had to be really careful through many rooms or fall to their doom..the old life force clock was just a bit (and only a bit) better than the walking knight..

              But some of the graphics were poor (eek! A bat! A scorpion!  ;D), you really felt a bit bored when a failed quest in level 3 was followed by a hopeless team who stumble their way through the wall guardians (I preferred the scrolls, apart from when a team dithered over them as long as it would have taken to answer 3 questions  >:().

              Also, many of the characters were rather scary looking. And not in a good way. S4 was woefully linear too. And those %^^"$%** weeping doors! Pickle was poor in S4 too, except on 2 occasions; when he entered the game and the placement of a banana in the knapsack (for all the good it would have done).

              S5-8, on the other hand...spyglasses were fun, Smirkenhoff's rides were good (better than a S3 dwarf tunnel) and S8's Eye shield sequences finally looked very good (S4-7 were poor, I know). Graphics looked really groovy in S7-8, the challenges such as the moving platforms, the trial by spikes (and the obvious ones etc.) and wave upon wave of fireballs. Lord Fear and his minions were all great, too. And I include the blockers in that.

              But...The Eye shield sequences grated, the villages were too tame (you knew they wouldn't be endangered there), the floating skulls had lost their evil ways (except they did that in S4) (except they did once in S5) and Majida (or whoever) in S7-8 was poor. Treguard also had terible attire in s7-8 (like s1-2, perhaps).

              Also, of course, the quests were longer, which meant fewer teams per series, which meant fewer deaths. I'm guessing they wanted to put a more equal Powers That be Vs. The Opposition score (I think the best was still a thrashed 2-5, but better than 11-0 of S3 (last team doesn't count)), but couldn't make it too easy. But they tried...level 1 of S5 Team 1 was so simple.

              So, although the paragraphs of negatives outnumber the positives (by 4 to 2), I still loved Knightmare, and S5-8 juuuuuuussst clinch it. But only due to Lord Fear and being able to warm to him. Mogdred just looked like he'd stuck his head in a bowl of Vaseline and then tried to do a Brother Mace impression. Sorry, my opinion.

              Also, the characters had much more charm in later series than the early ones...Motley beat Folly (although Folly was more a 'jester' proper), Brother mace beat...erm, someone...Hordriss just beat Merlin (only because Hordriss popped up in different places and generally knew better than to lock himself in the stocks  ;))

              Good heavens, I've typed too much.

              Thanks for reading this far.

              My vote was s5-8, by the way, in case you didn't catch it.

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                Emii
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                Series 5-8. Bit darker than the previous series, some promising acting came up from new characters along the way and some parts moved a bit quicker. Plus I'm not old enough to remember before series 4.

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                  FrightKnight
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                  Neither am I.

                  Mind you, many of us (the KMF members) seem to be 18ish...

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                    Fidjit
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                    Except me FrightKnight, I am 16... I am the youngest here or something...?

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                      FrightKnight
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                      well, you know, give or take, 16 is close to 18...

                      So when did you start watching Knightmare? I started in either series 4 or 5...

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                        Fidjit
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                        Oooh it must of been either series 5 or 6 FrightKnight... Why's that?

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                          FrightKnight
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                          Just curious.

                          I take it you'd remember the latter part of the golden era for CITV, what with Dangermouse, Children's Ward, Knightmare (Of course), Count Duckula, Reboot, Art Attack, How 2...

                          eee...those were the days...

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                            Guest
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                            Ok then what is the final score?

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                              Snowwiewolf
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                              Posted by: Motley Posted on: Today at 3:17pm

                              Except me FrightKnight, I am 16... I am the youngest here or something...?  

                              I'm a year younger than you  😉

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                                Emii
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                                Yeah Snowwie's our baby of the forum. It used to be me until all these knewbs turned up I'm often one of the only girls too - I was one of the first girls apparently. There were Resque, Steph and Sidriss before me and I think Debz was too. Then I came, there was a long pause and then aload of girls streamed in! I kinda miss it. It was nice being the only girl at the KMRPG - I got mollycoddled by everyone else cos I was the youngest too!

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                                  Snowwiewolf
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                                  "Goo ga ga" Hits Emii with a stuffed toy "Mamma!"

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                                    FrightKnight
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                                    Adopting the fatherly attitude, I feel the need to tell you, kid, that Emii is NOT your mother.

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                                      Snowwiewolf
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                                      Goo stick tongue at Frightknight and throws a plate full of baby food at his face

                                      and I know that! Sheesh. My mother is Mirkku Pulliainen 42, years old works at Tieto.

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                                        FrightKnight
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                                        Wipes baby food away from face with dignity

                                        Just as long as you know...

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                                          Snowwiewolf
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                                          Throws a baby bottle at Frightknight and dont call me kid!

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