Change from Series 4 to Series 5
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To be honest, I was never all that comfortable with the regular use of spyglasses against the Opposition from Series 5 onwards. I always liked the awareness of 'the watchers' among the characters ('Come closer to the fire'; 'I say, you lot, bog off'; etc.), but spyglasses, for me, made voyeurism too much of an issue, and in this way weakened the Opposition. (Or made them more vulnerable and 'human', depending on how you look at it). I can't imagine that a spyglass would ever 'work on', or 'work with', Mogdred.
I hope at least some of that makes sense, without being overly controversial...
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There were definitely a lot of changes from series 4 to 5. Besides the new opposition, there was quite a shake-up character wise too, as far as I know Treguard, Pickle, Hordriss, Motley and Brother Mace were the only old characters remaining in this series crossover.
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In addition, the Grimwolds were still around at the end of Series 6...
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As I've said so many times, I think the end to Series 4 is sickening, with my main focus for scorn being that dreadful Christmas scene, which I just can't watch.
For me, the changes from Series 4 to 5 were on the whole positive as individual changes, but somehow Series 5 didn't gel together as well as it could have. The new actors are finding their feet, the location work is often a bit dull, and some of the Teams don't do as well as perhaps they should. I do agree on the spyglasses getting used to much as the show progressed, although having last watched Series 5 when it was on Challenge, I must admit I enjoyed pretty much all the spyglass scenes that year, and thought they were generally useful without giving everything away. That wasn't always the case in later Series, and for me it just became too expected to find a spyglass that would give pretty detailed instruction about the way ahead.
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All good points GG, thanks to Drassil for bringing my old topic back up, the true question I wanted to find out was "Why were dungeoneers sent in with no hope of completing a quest", was it worth the effort to get a team in all the way from god knows where just for them to fill 10-20minutes of a show?? that question was never truely answered.
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See this recent review of Series 8 Team 7:
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Season 5 saw a radical change....I have always thought of S4 as testing ground for S5, to be honest, the season where the transition took place.
The progression continued through to season 7, really, where the format was again beginning to change, and of course S8 came full circle and started, what would have been, yet another different phase of Knightmare.
(Also, I believe if someone says they are have dyslexia, then it should be left at that, no need for rude comments, Dan.)
'morgaine will be comming out of the cupboard soon and i am lloking 4qward to it '
And indeed, Morgaine shall be arriving some time in the near future
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the emd of s 4 was abysmal it really made me cross
they could have at least destroyed modgred or merlin and modgred having a duel together which meddes up the dungeon so the dungeoneer had to be rescued at least they would have had a better excuse
shalme as that team were intelligent and quite polite (as we did see some real brats over the years!9
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It was just such a terrible end to the era, next era we had LF and co introduced and a lot of shifting of characters/actors/sets and all we had to end S4 was this terrible blink and you miss it dismissal in time for christmas. When I first watched that I thought it was a joke.
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