KNIGHTMARE RETURNS TO CITV
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This new format worries in a way. Its a really good concept but it seems it could take the Dungeoneers Destiny(TM) out of their own hands - what happens if you get a particularly malicious audience and it decides to put as many traps in the dungeoneers path as possible?
I guess the audience at any one time would be pretty similar to that of other weeks, so it wouldn't be too much of a problem. And I guess there would just be a choice of obstacles to put before the dungeoneer (I'm a slow convert to this "avatar" word) so they wouldn't be able to give them loads of obstacles one week and very few the next. I also guess that at least some of what they'd face will be fixed (i.e., not up for a vote), so the production team can level out any inconsistencies.
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For the most part, getting a dungeoneer in and out of a room was simply a matter of course. What they did in the room was more important - clue rooms, for example.
The occasions when blindness became potentially lethal was in timing exercises, causeways, bomb rooms, any room with gaps in the floor, and the Corridor of Blades.
What's stopping them from blinding the dungeoneer for just those types of room?
Temporary blindness/having to rely on the advisor is certainly a possibility. Otherwise at least some of these puzzles could remain a challenge simply by speeding them up. A different type of challenge, admittedly, but a challenge nonetheless.
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One thing to bear in mind is that fri 3rd Jan falls out at the end of the 2 week xmas/new year schedule. Citv doesn't usually start broadcasting again (in its afternoon time slot) until the week after. Therefore anything they do on Jan 3rd would be put in specially and this could mean a longer/shorter slot for the special. Alternatively, they could dedicate an entire week to the celebrations (the following week) as they did with the 40 years of Childrens TV back in the mid nineties. - Maybe this is too much to hope for.
Also, thought of some more programs
Funhouse
Just Us
Wilderness Edge (Not a particular fave)
3,7,11 (not a particular fave either)
Press gang (first episode I saw turned out to be the last one they made)
Allsorts
Bad Influence
Dreamstone.
The list could (and probably will) go on....
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And a point about the Knightmare repeat itself.... I know it's pretty obvious, but I hope they choose to put on a first in the series, and therefore introduce new viewers at a point where there have been many changes (from previous season) anyway, just as much of that stuff was new to us the first time we saw it.
I don't think series one, though. I think viewers should see it when it is a bit more developed.
Series 5 I would say, or series 3 if you think it's better in the earlier days.
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I think the first programme in series 1 would be a better choice. All the rules are explained thoroughly at the start and it features a death. To someone who has never seen the programme before, both these things are vital to have. After all, the deaths are one of the things that made Km stand out.
I doubt they'd show any of series 3 - Challenge have already scooped the rights for that one.
Alternatively, the first in series 2 is also a good choice. A helluvalot happens in it so it'd be sure to grab the audience's attention.
Jan 3rd - Friday no less! Just like old times ;D
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I went out and got my xmas tv guide today (out a day early too!) and there's a bit of news, if you can call it that.
On January 3rd there is definately CITV Birthday Bash, but it is at 9:25am and is on until 10:45am. So, not in the afternoon, but in the holiday morning slot.
So far I have "TV Times" and "What's on TV", "Radio Times" not out yet. Both of these magazines are produced by the same company hence the pretty similar listings description which says something like "Special birthday show featuring Matthew Kelly, grotbags, roland rat"
There are no links to special feature in either magazine and No mention of Knightmare. This does not mean Knightmare won't be shown, but at least we now know the time slot for the show is 80 minutes. This is (obviously) definately long enough to show an ep of Knightmare, but is it likely that they would want to dedicate such a sized proportion of the show to a single program when they have 20 years to celebrate?
I shall keep an eye out for the RT et the others
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Well if it's only an 80 minute show then I guess we'll have to make do with clips of Knightmare and not full episodes.
Unless, of course, CITV decide to show episodes in thier normal schedule, but we'll have to wait until we get the first post-Xmas issue of a TV mag....
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Wasn't there talk of a possible Theme Night on ITV2 at some stage? If so, perhaps an episode might feature there.
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It will be nice to see a few clips, since it seems that's the best we can hope for. And Grotbags! And hopefully T-Bag. crosses fingers
Tonight at around 2.30am ITV are showing one of the concerts that made up Eurythmics' Peacetour: well worth a look for anyone staying up late.
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For anyone who missed this, a few very quick Knightmare clips were featured in a short section that looked back at CITV programmes of the 1980s. The presenters described it as "the coolest show of the 80s" and "so ahead of its time".
When they discussed the 90s shows they made a big mention of how the 90s featured programmes for everyone, as if that hadn't been the case before. Strange, then, that it was in this period that they basically abandoned a major age section of the youth market in axeing such shows as Knightmare.
In any case, I thought Grotbags easily stole the show.
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Hi
Just got in from work. Sat down and watched citv's 20th birthday celebrations. I thought it was really good. If it had one fault (other than not showing full episodes of faves such as knightmare) it was that they spent a bit too long on the links. not the bits where they were talking to old presenters - that was interesting (It was nice to see jeannes down, scally etc - but bits like the 2002 trivia quiz and reminding people to phone in with their top 2002 shows. It seemed a bit too focused on the modern presenters and not enough on the retro. Also I didn't like the way they just grabbed hold of anyone for the birthday messages - most of the celebs I thought were really unsuitable and therefore it was a bit patronizing for citv i.e. s club juniors are too young to have 'grown up' with citv, blazin' squad I would imagine wouldn't watch citv (think of street cred and all that).
Incidentally. I also picked up on how they said there was 'something for everyone in the 90's'. I would have thought that phrase would have gone better with the 80's shows which even adults admitted to watching for their own enjoyment. (Do you know any adults who enjoy coming home from work and settling into the latest 'repeat' of pokemon or hey arnold?).
And yes, Grotbags was really good. The best bit though was probably Roland Rat confessing his embarresing moment to be saving 'TV-AM'.
Anyway, overall the show was really good.
A few more things
- any more news on this itv2 theme night?
2.I know it's on the wrong thread but how did knightmare do in the cult pole on challenge (I don't have sky) and I'm too lazy to look!
- And something I've jut thought of. I'm really suprised there was no mention of Rainbow
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2.I know it's on the wrong thread but how did knightmare do in the cult pole on challenge (I don't have sky) and I'm too lazy to look!
I can do this one. It won. It's detailed on the "Challenge Cult Selection Winners" thread in this Knews section of the forum.
I'd also like to know the answer to your first question. I asked a while back on this thread with no response. Perhaps the default response is therefore: no news.
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I watched the show and have been stuck in nostalgia mode all day.
I'm suprised that The Dreamstone and Wacaday were missed out.
On Woof! how did the turning into a dog thing pass on to a new person? Was it genetic?
"There's somebody at the door". Grotbags should have her own show again.
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Poor Emii! comfies
And Grotbags should definitely get a new show! Every generation growing up needs an ugly, green skinned, shrill-voiced, badly dressed witch to be frightened by. Well, I suppose Anne Robinson fulfils the criteria, but we still need Grotbags back!
I'm only joking, Annie. Perhaps you and Grotbags could do a show together? Or at least invite her onto the Weakest Link Celebrity Witches Special.
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