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  • HStormH
    HStormH
    HStorm
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    Any spell, once cast, can be dispelt.

    Spells are never destroyed once cast or dismissed however. What happens is that a dungeoneer is given a single use of a spell, but the person who gave them that use can still cast the spell for themselves as well. That's why the same spell may resurface from time to time e.g. ENERGY, ANVIL, FIRE.

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      TheBrollachan
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      Would it be fair to assume that the early basic spells were created by Merlin. Then with the arrival of Lord Fear came new spells. Then with new techno-magic came more advanced spells.

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      • HStormH
        HStormH
        HStorm
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        Well you can assume that if you like, but I doubt it. For one thing in Merlin's time there were numerous other wizards around like Mogdred, Hordriss, the elf-king etc.

        I wouldn't say spells like FLOAT were any more sophisticated than, say, TRANSFORM.

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          Lowebo
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          All about Splash!

          "Oh, most amusing..."

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            simiano
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            i cast a spell in the knewbie forun check out its another km fan btw my fave spell was dance

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              Visage
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              Certainly it seemed that normally you could cast a spell once and once only...

              However, dispelling was a bit different...

              Two cases from Series 3...

              1. The team that first reached level 3 dispelled SWORD a grand total of three times, once the one that they had been given, then twice to dispell Mogdred's magical sword...

              2. The second team to reach level 3 managed to dispell Mogdred's TOAD spell on McGrew without ever having possesed the spell or even having heard it spelled out...

              So....

              I propose that any dungeoneer who has seen a spell cast and knows (or can guess) its name can also dispell it, but that this isn't common knowledge or usually the spell attacks too quickly for them to dispell....

              Hmmmm....

              Oh, and for the record, my favourite spell is definitely FILLET, as being the only spell to my knowledge that had to be made from ingredients like good old fashioned magic... I suppose the more complicated the concept the harder the spell to make...

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                Lowebo
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                I think if i went in there i'd spell cast:

                LetMeWinNow

                reckon it would work? or just try glory!! lol (and hope)

                Slightly off tangent, but if dungeypersons had watched past series' in depth couldn't they call out Malefact/Gwen/Barry(!!) three times immediately??

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                  Visage
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                  I'm certain they could, and all but Barry might get a response...

                  But....

                  Just because you've called them doesn't indicate that they need to help, most calling names were given out in return for favours, after all, Maldame made it very clear that summoned wizards didn't need to be friendly:

                  'If you call on me, I shall shrivel you like a dried toad's skin! HA!!!'

                  Charming woman....

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                  • HStormH
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                    HStorm
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                    In which case, how come both Lord Fear and Julie were able to summon Greystagg by calling Gwen three times, even though she never gave either of them permission?

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                      Visage
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                      Well I never said that they needed permission, only that the person summoned might not be too willing to help them win the dungeon like WW was suggesting....

                      I'm surprised if Greystagg helped them, not having ever seen her episodes as that series is waiting taped at home for my later delectation!

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                        Lowebo
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                        Ah, but Hordriss and Greystagg have said themselves - anything to annoy/defeat Lord Fear!! Ok, crap tv, but still...

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                          Drassil
                          Senior staff
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                          Anyone got a favourite spell?

                          One of my favourite spells is TOAD from Series 3. The scene around it, in which Mogdred (probably Mogdred ) turns McGrew into a toad for offending him, struck me as scary, creepy and funny when I first saw it as a child. It was satisfying, too, to see the team swiftly overcome the predicament by dispelling the magic and returning their comrade to human form.

                          Another of my favourites is a rather more obvious choice: DISMISS!

                          So, what are your favourite - and/or least favourite - Knightmare spells? I look forward to reading any choices you wish to share. For a near-complete list of Knightmare spells, with more details available for each one, see http://interactive.knightmare.org.uk/lexicon/category/Spells

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                          • HStormH
                            HStormH
                            HStorm
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                            I quite liked AVAUNT when I first saw it in action, because it looked like a laser bolt "blowin' da muvva away!!" I didn't realise at the time what 'avaunt' actually meant, and that it was really just sending the ghost elsewhere.

                            WEB was fun too because it was quick, simple and effective (and Cedric's frustrated sobs were quite satisfying).

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                              Fidjit
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                              Hear, hear to AVAUNT. Until it came up on YouTube I never saw it in action, as you say Martin its a really great way to dispose of a cavern wraith

                              Mine would probably have to be SWORD. If the work mates give me grief, cast one of these and send it out after them... Watch 'em run for the hills!

                              Or perhaps even a SPLASH spell! We work right next to the River Medina! ;D

                              It would be fun to possess the spells FIRE and FREEZE

                              Why not create a spell? Like SNEEZE, UNDO, or REVERSE? Explain how it works and all that...

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                                scorchx
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                                change was mildly amusing, forcing the dungeneer to become a Goblin.

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                                  knightmaredave
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                                  i quite liked it when VIM was uswed by Merlin wonder what it stands for???

                                  Also quite liked the freeze used on arie adne in series 4 too was quite amusing trguard soundedas ifd he was straining himself by saying "use what you may and use it fast.. quickly quickly"... s p e l l c a s t i n g FREEZE

                                  toook her aaggges to cast that spell im suprise they werent gobbled up

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                                    Drassil
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                                    Why not create a spell? Like SNEEZE, UNDO, or REVERSE?

                                    UNDO was a spell actually mentioned on Knightmare - by Fidjit!

                                    i quite liked it when VIM was uswed by Merlin wonder what it stands for???

                                    The word vim comes straight from Latin, and means strength/vigour in both languages.

                                    It would be fun to possess the spells FIRE and FREEZE

                                    I'd like to have MEDAL and BAG. That way, the next time I encounter a spider being shrieked at by an arachnophobic, I'd have the means to deal with both.

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                                    • JamesAJ
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                                      JamesA
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                                      I'd like to mention the SHROUD spell used by Mogdred on Series 2 Team 7. Not only was it amusing seeing the team trying to dispell, but I especially enjoyed it for how Mogdred made the dungeoneer disappear in such a way.

                                      Of course, it was also amusing to see the same team mistake a SHOVEL for a spade!

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                                        Fidjit
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                                        UNDO was a spell actually mentioned on Knightmare - by Fidjit!

                                        Oh yes of course. I do tend to forget what thou says...

                                        How embarrasing. Wouldn't have minded a kiss from Sidriss in all honesty!

                                        We havent seen a STRENGTH spell either however the game that whats-his-name made had it to pull "The Sword" out of the stone!

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                                          Mashibinbin
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                                          My Top Five:

                                          ANVIL - for the sheer cartonn rip offery.

                                          DRINK - for a slurping sound rivalled only by Compo Simmonite.

                                          FREEZE - for finally showing what happens when someone with icy knickers pees her pants.

                                          TOAD - because I love amphibians.

                                          TRICK - More for what could have happened than what did but this was still a fun little number.

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