KNIGHTMARE VR
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Directed at Tim C but obviously for anyone else to read and digest.
As already discussed codecs like Xvid (DivX requires a commercial license) could help bring the size of the file down to 110mb and yet still maintain the ultra-high quality.
I think still a lot of dial-up users would whine at such a large download and bandwidth doesn't always come cheap.
So distribution over the net could be done using a mechanism like BitTorrent or having a lot of Mirrors for the file.
Having said that I do think distribution by post would still be better. It is appreciated that DVD's or CD's aren't free and hundreds can escalate into many pounds. Also if demand is high it could become a full time job for one man.
So how about using the post distribution system and recruiting some trusted people from within the community who are willing to provide a service. To cover the cost people could send a blank DVD or CD with the SAE on which to burn the episode, alternatively provide say 20 or 50 pence coin (depending on either CD or DVD and cost of media at the time).
I think most people will agree that the few people who try to make a profit from Knightmare on eBay are scum for ripping people off and profiting from something that the rights of which don't belong to them. So having an authorised list of people wlling to serve the community should help keep tabs on that. Although it still wouldn't surprise me if someone who got a copy attempted to then sell it conning someone into thinking it's a one-off super secret copy.
If the above method of distribution were carried out I'd be willing to provide a management system for it over the web. People could enter their details into a form and then be assigned to one of the people providing copies. The person could indicate on the form if they'll be sending their own media or some small form of payment to cover media cost. Then the person they're assigned to can then post back a copy of the footage in the SAE, to help speed the process up they could stock a collection of the said CD's or DVD's and post one of the pre-burnt copies upon receipt of the SAE keeping the received blank to burn more onto. The system could also allow the distributors to then signal to someone that they've posted the copy so it also works as a type of order tracking system so at all times people know how long they've go to wait. Also the distributors could be assigned based on who has the current smallest number of requests thus performing load balancing.
Anyway, just a small personal request. As people know on IKM (Interactive Knightmare) there's a 'just-for-fun' caption competition being run. Along time ago when the very first series of it came to an end I offered a prize of a Knightmare Mug. It would be fantastic if say a screenshot of Knightmare VR be provided and then say you (Tim) be able to cast the deciding vote on the best Caption submitted (The public voting system has people that like to try and cheat, I spot them all the time) and then that person could receive a copy of the video say a week or two before anyone else. Just an idea.
Thanks,
Forester
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I think that the copying-system has the most potential, as long as the work is spread out equally amongst the people willing to make the copies, and that costs are set as a standard from the get go so nobody can overcharge.
If one or 2 copies were sent out initially, it would reduce the cost for TC, and then those 2 people could send out copies to the other copiers, and then the process takes off from there, really.
I am willing to help, I hope at least 7 or 8 others are too, as we really need a lot of support for it to make sure 1 person is now overloaded.
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nah, we should have that knightmare convention we keep on threatening and have a 24/7 screening there
i personally would rather have a download. i've used soulseek to share files before and have found that useful for spreading music, resuming downloads and queueing things that are offline if webspace is an issue for uploading the file.
i can start copying in norwich to save any costs on TC part if it is needed.
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A lot of good ideas here. I'd like to leave the thread open for a few more days to allow others to have their say. Also Nick might care to move it to its own separate thread topic top allow more people to discover it.
Forester : I think I may have a better prize suggestion for you, I just need to check my locker of dungeon dimension goodies first. The Interactive project is deserving of the upmost encouragement!!
Suggest you all continue to check the Telvirtual development website - as we'd just about to post new treats.
BVA
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The copying idea sounds interesting to me, as I have recently released (some of you probably know of this) a collection of films my friends & I made on a DVD using a similar copying & distributing method to that suggested here then my software is up to the task. Still any way to recieve this pilot would be fine by me!
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I think allowing a choice should be allowed:
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Downloading available for thoses who have fast connections (or do not have a DVD player)
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DVD or similar format available via the distribution method mentioned earlier on a not-for-profit cost basis.
Still can't wait to see what it is like.
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A lot of good ideas here. I'd like to leave the thread open for a few more days to allow others to have their say. Also Nick might care to move it to its own separate thread topic top allow more people to discover it.
Forester : I think I may have a better prize suggestion for you, I just need to check my locker of dungeon dimension goodies first. The Interactive project is deserving of the upmost encouragement!!
Suggest you all continue to check the Telvirtual development website - as we'd just about to post new treats.
BVA
Two treats then? Very good indeed! The first will certainly do IKM a world of good, and the second will do our curiousity a world of good too!
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I for one would love to see this footage - and I agree that vhs/dvd by mail is the way to go! Perhaps hosting it as xvid too for the people who are too impatient to wait for it to arrive! And for the people with no dvd player and/or no broadband - how about putting the xvid on a cd for them - that way everyone has about 3 different ways of being able to access the footage!
And goodies from the powers that be? we're not worthty
All we need now are regional testings of the demo - in say.. um.. Crewe cough
Hey, I am still traumatised from never getting on the show - most probably due to the very itsy-tiny problem of never applying! Think i'd pass for 14 on the new show?
6 foot kid with long hair and a beard? Well if that fails I can audition for a 20yr old treguard
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6 foot kid with long hair and a beard? Well if that fails I can audition for a 20yr old treguard
Well, I've had facial hair on and off since year 8. Used to be because I couldn't be bothered shaving, now because I can't decide if I want a beard and if so how long
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This probably won't do it justice, but I'd be happy to encode a Real format clip of the pilot (like I've done with the foreign Knightmare episodes) and put it on this website. That would be less than 5MB and ideal for dial-up users.
A high quality version should also be made available somewhere but unfortunately I would not be able to host such a large file size because it would really eat my bandwidth.
Yes it would be good for some members to set up a distribution point for the DVD for those who want it. I'm not sure what the demand would be, but if a high quality download is made available first, then it's possible that many people would be happy with that.
PS: I have made this thread stickly. Unfortunatly there isn't a way of spliting the thread into two.
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Forester : I think I may have a better prize suggestion for you, I just need to check my locker of dungeon dimension goodies first. The Interactive project is deserving of the upmost encouragement!!
That's a very generous offer thank you! And thanks for your kind words too.
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Forester I have an Eyeshield you may have as a prize.
It was one of 2 used in programme production. email me your address to Televirtual via the website.
BVA
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Wow - what a fantastic prize. Thrilling to see such a piece of folklore history made available like this. Thanks!
Suggest you all continue to check the Telvirtual development website - as we'd just about to post new treats.
BVA
Have just had a look at the ogre sequence. If the early seconds are demonstrative of dwarf tunnels, then they work fairly well: they have the colour scheme that brings back memories of the mine shaft tunnel back in 1989. The idea of something guarding the door brings the required element (without a blindfold) of encountering rather than just escaping from pursuing enemy. Every step spells further progression, and a further piece in the jigsaw: will be incredible to see it all pieced together. KaM
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Just trying to work out why I couldn't hear any sound - must be my ruddy computer.
Still looks very interesting - the more clips I see the more I am liking the new KMVR.
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That dungeon master looks more than a little familiar...
Had a haircut, too. Looks much more respectable.
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I see that the avatar Treguard has been put to good use as a series 1-3-style in-Dungeon appearance.
I like the tunnels, too. They seem to be a combination of the series 3 and 6 tunnels.
May I be very insensitive? I strongly believe that a Life Force clock is needed. Concerns have been raised in the past that the clock, when run continuously, would expire in about a minute, when it's supposed to last several. I agree that there is a lack of linearity. However, energy expenditure isn't linear - hence it's appropriate that the clock should only move during times of stress. This is entirely appropriate since the sight of a diminishing clock adds to the tension.
Thanks very much for the prize. I think it's extremely generous.
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