Knightmare VR
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BBC 2 has a pedigree with this sort of show.
They lost the Simpsons, Star Trek and Robot Wars and have yet to fill the vale and Knightmare could be just what the director general ordered...
(Do we know if Micheal Grade watches Knightmare?)
They have made some attempts to fill the slot with that battle recreation thing but Kinghtmare on Friday Knights on the run up to Christmas is what we all want; isn't it?
And besides, if showing Knightmare dosen't get the BBC back into the Governments good books then nothing will!
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I think BBC2 would be the best choice because it's a terrestrial channel. I also think that Knightmare will get a decent slot, whereas on channel 4 it would probably get a rediculous timeslot, i.e. late at night, which only adults will be able the watch it, in the early hours of the morning which only insomniac/night shift people or night owls will be able to watch it or in the morning probably during term time which will also probably be the same case with BBC1. If it's on CITV or CBBC then the only viewers will be youngsters, probably 8 and younger. With Channel 5, also remember that some people still can't get that Channel unless they have cable or digital, due to where they live. So personally, like most of you I still think that BBC2 is the best choice.
Just to be slightly picky, because I'm in a picky mood tonight. I think this thread should be moved to the BBK board. As I've said I'm in a real picky mood tonight.
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I think there could be much success all round if BBC2 do get hold of it - KMVR is the sort of cult show the channel needs right now to fill the gaps left by shows like The Simpsons and Robot Wars. It's also the channel (I think) that would do Knightmare the most justice by bringing it to a wider audience than a satellite channel would.
It all depends on whether the BBC are actually interested in a show like this. But at the end of the day, what channel wouldn't be? It has a fantastic, futuristic look - and a proven history of success. Surely any sane person would see this as the Holy Grail of television programmes.
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i believe knightmare at 6pm on BBC 2 is best, i hope they show the original 8 first though, that would be a great way to start off a new seris. overall the new VR version is very promising i wonder how the whole episode will look with antechambers and thing. who think though that maybe LF should aslo be real along with TG if possible.
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Therefore, if we get ahead of ourselves, and assume TV bosses unanimously loooovve KM VR (they should, of course, but some of them are stupid), BBC 2 would be a knice home.
Was that a reference to Michael Grade?
I think if Channel Five picked KM up, it would certainly be a record breaking show then... The only good show in the history of the channel
Surely you forget The Mole, and possably Fort Boyard, although the Challenge version's better. Channel 5 - the only channel to axe the shows that are good and keep the ones that are bad. Well, the keeping the bad isn't that unusual, I suppose.
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Therefore, if we get ahead of ourselves, and assume TV bosses unanimously loooovve KM VR (they should, of course, but some of them are stupid), BBC 2 would be a knice home.
Was that a reference to Michael Grade?
No, just an acknowledgement to the people who think 2 hours of 'Simply the best' (surely the most ironic title ever for a tv show) on a Saturday is great.
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I think there's a good chance that KMVR could feature as a segment of a Saturday morning kids' TV show. Maybe on ITV1, following the tradition of interactive video games like Magic Pockets, Hugo The Troll and Joe Razz; maybe on BBC, following Treguard's appearance there earlier this year.
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I think it's more likely that a BBC channel will pick up KM-VR.
Maybe.
ITV have lost their chance, for a start, and they're the worst channel (I agree with Thanatos here - C5 are a lot better, they often show a movie at night which can often be classic, and they have Monkey Magic!). To C5's credit, I doubt they'd have anything against showing KM-VR, but they have basically no market for children's programmes and I think they'll stay that way.
That leaves Channel 4, which is (IMO) the best channel for KM-VR, as it caters for minority groups and slightly 'unusual' programmes, plus it's done children a great service in the past by showing some excellent kids' shows (Earthworm Jim!). Plus, it showed the 100 Greatest, which contained Knightmare.
But I don't think that C4 could really show KM-VR. They don't have a perfect slot to put it in, to be perfectly honest. And there are adverts.
Which is probably why I think BBC will snap it up as part of their kids' slot (maybe on a Saturday morning, maybe as part of afternoon/evening CBBC).
Of course, if it's put on a cable/digital channel, then I'll be really pissed off.
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I think it's more likely that a BBC channel will pick up KM-VR.
Maybe.
ITV have lost their chance, for a start, and they're the worst channel (I agree with Thanatos here - C5 are a lot better, they often show a movie at night which can often be classic, and they have Monkey Magic!). To C5's credit, I doubt they'd have anything against showing KM-VR, but they have basically no market for children's programmes and I think they'll stay that way.
That leaves Channel 4, which is (IMO) the best channel for KM-VR, as it caters for minority groups and slightly 'unusual' programmes, plus it's done children a great service in the past by showing some excellent kids' shows (Earthworm Jim!). Plus, it showed the 100 Greatest, which contained Knightmare.
But I don't think that C4 could really show KM-VR. They don't have a perfect slot to put it in, to be perfectly honest. And there are adverts.
Which is probably why I think BBC will snap it up as part of their kids' slot (maybe on a Saturday morning, maybe as part of afternoon/evening CBBC).
Of course, if it's put on a cable/digital channel, then I'll be really pissed off.
Agreed. If Challenge were to pick it up, KM-VR would be taken off before it had been given a chance. Or indeed any digital channel. The fact is, not everyone has digital TV at the moment for one reason or another.
Mind you, I can't see Tim Child approaching Challenge or most other digital channels anyway, they are hardly going to be able to pay Televirtual the amount they would be expecting for such a production; success or not.
I think, definately, BBC2 would be the best, and it seems that many people agree
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I'm not sure what the terrestrial discussion heeds, but I'd like to think that, with the greatest respect to Sky, a project this size, or perhaps of this potential size, would only be made with the intention of broadcasting it terrestrially - where the millions are. With a lottery grant required for the search engine and trying to rekindle a programme that held audiences of millions 10 years ago, it might appear to show lack of faith or ambition (which, regardless of the outcome, we know is there in abundance) if the new series was commissioned to a channel with a known limited audience. I think that most entertainment channels on Sky tend to be comprised of either repeats or time-trailing shows - but that's what they're wanted for, and good for, and there's no criticism implied because that works.
As for the terrestrial channel discussion: I think I really depends what category KM-VR will be attributed. For instance, if the idea was set for it to remain predominantly a children's show, then it is difficult to argue against grouping it into the standard chilldren's prime-time slots, on the likes of CBBC and CiTV - let's fact it - it certainly found its appeal for the original K.M. If it is to move up a notch, into that young adult/adolescent category that seems to have been the scapegoat excuse as to the original being axed, then I really don't know. I'm just glad that BVA knows the business and has plenty of knowledge about the industry & will hold faith that the best deal for this will be settled.
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