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  • HStormH
    HStormH
    HStorm
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    #24

    I suggest you do both i.e. aim to release AIWIKTV in time for Xmas, and then aim to release Perfect Quest some time in the Spring.

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    • PookaP
      PookaP
      Pooka
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      #25

      I've written 'Perfect Quest' by myself, but that was because I got bored. I've been singing the lyrics along to the karaoke file for some time now (so much that they're memorised actually).

      I'd be perfectly happy to produce another filk, as I produced Wall Aid 11, and have been honing my skills since then - 'All I Want Is Knightmare' I like, and it'd be a good idea.

      It's a shame that Darren isn't on hand, because he'd want to be involved. But if we do another filk (and I'm quite enchanted with the idea now), I'm sure I could get hm involved if he wanted.

      There's also no reason we can't do both, or more.

      Can I just do a quick survey... if anyone reads this thread - who would actually want to sing a line in any future Knightmare filks? (Evidently you'd have to have a mike.)

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        Drassil
        Senior staff
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        #26

        Here is the current situation:

        I've been in touch with Darren. He kindly gave me guidelines for acquiring a karaoke/backing track via a chatroom; but the process isn't as straightforward as I was expecting, and I've got nowhere. I've tried search engines, but the longer I spend trawling without success, the less fun and the more irritating it all becomes. I'd rather not register or pay to download a karaoke track, especially with so few people showing an interest in the project. Midis are readily available, but none of the ones I've downloaded sounds quite right. Darren has also sent me recordings of himself singing the opening verse(s), and there's no disputing their quality, but when I played those vocals alongside a backing track sample with the same tempo as the original song, they didn't 'sync up'.

        So unless anyone else is willing to take an active role in organising this and guarantee against further wasted time, I think I will align myself with the collective apathy, but not without the hope that there will be another KM filk recording some time in the future.

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        • HStormH
          HStormH
          HStorm
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          #27

          I'm not sure people are apathetic though. I just think, if they're anything like me, they're not sure exactly what help they can be. I mean I'd offer to sing a line, but my singing's so bad I make Geri Halliwell sound like she has a woman's voice or something.

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          • TheMightyMartinT
            TheMightyMartinT
            TheMightyMartin
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            #28

            I'd love to be involved in this. I'd be willing to pay a modest amount towards a kareoke cd or something.

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              37Herbie
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              #29

              I can sing a line if needed but, as stated, what do you need help with exactly and I may be able to assist in helping!

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              • PookaP
                PookaP
                Pooka
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                #30

                I've got a karaoke mp3. Darren sent one to me ages ago.

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                  Darren
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                  #31

                  Did i? 😮

                  Well, I just thought I would quickly update here to say hi, I hope you are all ok

                  Sorry to hear it didnt sync up, but I did the best I could with what I had. Maybe if I had the backing track, I could do more.

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                  • PookaP
                    PookaP
                    Pooka
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                    #32

                    Additional.

                    MIDIs can be easily converted into mp3s; it's nowhere near the quality of an intended karaoke mp3, but always a good backup.

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                      Drassil
                      Senior staff
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                      #33

                      Additional.

                      If you'd perhaps offered to provide people with the mp3, rather than simply stating that you had it and how you got it, it might have been possible to get a recording done.

                      That was then. Pooka, if you would be willing to send that mp3 round to anyone who's still interested, or to put it up somewhere online for downloading, and willing also to reprise your role of producer, maybe there's a chance of us having a recording of All I Want Is Knightmare To View ready for this Christmas.

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                      • PookaP
                        PookaP
                        Pooka
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                        #34

                        I'd need a MIDI or MP3 of All I Want This Christmas then. The MP3 I was talking about is of Perfect Day.

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                          Drassil
                          Senior staff
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                          #35

                          Oh. I'm sorry, I misunderstood. I'm not that keen to pursue Perfect Quest, personally, but there's nothing to stop others doing so.

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                            Darren
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                            Heh, reviving this yet again are we? Well, this happens every christmas, we never get another one done, i've kinda given up this year. Although, i'm happy enough to take part as always if all is in order. Maybe we can have a go at tracking down those midi's together? I'm sure you can find them somewhere! I might even be able to edit the midi in Fruity Loops and make it sound MP3!

                            Let me know what you want me to do!

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                            • PookaP
                              PookaP
                              Pooka
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #37

                              Er... I can convert MIDI to MP3 is about 10 seconds. All I'd need is a MIDI.

                              As producer I'd also need to know who's interested in taking part and who's going to sing what lyrics.

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                                Darren
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                                #38

                                Well, i'm willing to take part, so mark me down as a yes. Just be sure to get the lyrics together and tell me what you want me to sing, along with a copy of the midi. Sure you can convert midi to MP3, but I could add instruments and such to make it sound better than the original? Umm, i'm sure you can do that anyway, its not my job.

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                                  Drassil
                                  Senior staff
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                                  #39

                                  Hi, Darren. Let's be fair: you say 'every christmas', but out of the two Christmasses on which we've tried, we've only failed once. If we're still not managing to get another filk recording done by Knightmare's 30th anniversary, then you can be as pessimistic as you like.

                                  If your post is about Perfect Day, then as Pooka said, there is an mp3 around, so we there's no need to convert a midi into one. If your post is about All I Want For Christmas Is You, then as I said,

                                  Midis are readily available, but none of the ones I've downloaded sounds quite right.

                                  But where that song is concerned: problem solved (I hope).

                                  http://youtube.com/watch?v=WGFYCiLKnio

                                  Contributors can sing their chosen section(s) with that video playing in the background for guidance. It can then be made into the backing track of the final version by using the old microphone-in-front-of-a-speaker method to record a wav, and then converting that wav into an mp3.

                                  I hope that sounds OK with everyone who's interested.

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                                  • PookaP
                                    PookaP
                                    Pooka
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #40

                                    Oh, bloody hell.

                                    OK, I've recorded that directly onto my hard drive and made a crystal-clear MP3 version of the instrumental. Looks like I'll be badgering people for parts at some point, too.

                                    We'll need a singing cast then. I'll be one. 😛

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                                    • PookaP
                                      PookaP
                                      Pooka
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #41

                                      Additional!

                                      The lyrics for AIWFKM are too long for the karaoke track. Some trimming will need to be done to the lyrics. If nobody else volunteers, I'll do that - otherwise, I'll send someone the track and the lyrics and they can see what they can do.

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                                        Billy
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                                        #42

                                        Looking at the file, the minute missing is the first minute of the song...which is fine as all the lyrics in that verse are then repeated in the second verse, so all that needs to be done is start from verse two and absolutely none of the lyrics will be completely lost!

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                                          Drassil
                                          Senior staff
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #43

                                          The lyrics for AIWFKM are too long for the karaoke track.

                                          Sounds like you're not too familiar with the original song (http://youtube.com/watch?v=XMnNau8d-Gs), which you probably should be if you intend to sing some of it. Anyway, Billy is right. What's more, that first verse is sung with little instrumental backing, so we could recreate that with our recording by inserting someone singing the first verse 'a capella' before the start of the karaoke track, if that's possible.

                                          By the way, do we have the permission/blessing of all of the filk's writers to proceed with this project?

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