Concerning Treguard
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Many thanks for your detailed and informative reply HStorm. It's really good that we have experts like you to aid newbies like myself. Your answer to my query regarding Treguard's allegiance has allowed me to see the facts from a new angle and it makes a great deal of sense. I hadn't considered that he only wanted to be released from Mogdred's grip and now that I think about it I certainly did notice his lack of gratefulness once he was free. Thanks for clearing things up for me.
I wonder what made Treguard decide that it would be worth his while to actively support the dungeoneers.
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Thanks for clearing things up for me.
No problem. (It's only really my opinion anyway.)
I wonder what made Treguard decide that it would be worth his while to actively support the dungeoneers.
I never liked the change in Treguard's personality. He was far more interesting when he was neutral, partly because his behaviour was less predictable, but also because he seemed a lot less dense like that; he wouldn't help the dungeoneers when they were in trouble because he chose not to. In later seasons he clearly wants to help, but apparently he can't, suggesting he's too thick to understand the way the chambers of his own Dungeon work. (I also hate how kiddie-friendly he is in later years. The 'There-there-never-mind' way he talks to teams after they've lost thanks to making a stupid cock-up sounds incredibly patronising.)
The change-over, as with a lot of the changes around the middle years, goes completely unexplained. I suppose we can speculate that it has something to do with the emergence of Lord Fear, whose rivalry with Treguard is very different from Mogdred's, but it's not really the job of the audience to explain it. The joy of lazy retcons eh?
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This topic is a good example of why I consider Treguard my favourite character (besides my little green friends and Mogdred). He has so many layers to his character and his behaviour and motivations can be explained by any one of a thousand different theories and unless Tim Child steps in and explains what he envisioned Treguard as in the first three series, any of our opinions could be correct.
I think the reason why Treguard states "Now I can do nothing for you even if I wished" is that he realizes that it is the task of the team to complete the quest - not his and he cannot literally step in and take charge - he must remain on the sidelines and offer subtle hints. Were he to actually stand up and guide the team through the dungeon, the credit for the success of the quest would fall at his feet and the team may just as well have stayed at home. The term "even if I wished" could relate to a situation where he felt the team would REALLY need his help, yet he couldn't step in and take over because it would be morally wrong of him to do so.
Also, would a character who didn't care about the dungeoneer's fate repeatedly inform them that they are wasting life force/life force is critical or tell them to take care in certain situations?
On an unrelated note I love how he reacts to Julie's death in Season 3: "Oooooh, ohh that is NASTY!!! I shouldn't look any more if I were you." It makes you wonder what the goblins had in mind for their captive.
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On an unrelated note I love how he reacts to Julie's death in Season 3: "Oooooh, ohh that is NASTY!!! I shouldn't look any more if I were you." It makes you wonder what the goblins had in mind for their captive.
Well Lord Fear once said in Se7: "Goblins, they tend to eat prisoners". So they perhaps had dinner in mind!
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So Folly once guided Treguard through the dungeon? Where's the story for that? It sounds worth digging out!
It was in the first Knightmare novella. See http://www.gamebooks.org/show_item.php?id=1341
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Do you remember Team 10 of Series 2's encounter with the Medusa? How Treguard advised them to only look at the screen for a few seconds before turning away? Did you notice that Treguard himself keeps his gaze on the screen for the entirety of the challenge? He is one tough dungeon master!
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Yeah, but I always got the impression it was because the medusa, indeed most of the Dungeon inhabitants, wouldn't dare to attack the Dungeon Master. It's not clear what powers of redress he had, but they must have been substantial, as intimated in several of the books.
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Perhaps once you master the dungeon, you become immune to it and things such as the medusa? This would explain why Treguard doesn't need to look away. (Although certain inhabitants who are powerful enough may still be able to cast spells of certain strength on him).
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