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  • PookaP
    PookaP
    Pooka
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    Another possibility is that Tim as hinting at something which was in very formative stages and that the dissolution of InterMediaLab (and, for that matter, Televirtual) was just a result of the recession.

    I'm reminded of the speculation that surrounded certain sections of the gaming community a few years back about a possible sequel to Superfrog following the eponymous hero's appearance in several Worms games. In fact, Martyn Brown (Boss of Team17, the company that developed Superfrog) actually let slip that they were working on "something very bizarre with him" and several websites reported on it. However, nothing came of it and Brown later said in an interview that making a Superfrog 2 was "just a concept... they are created all the time".

    I think this would be something similar. I'd have a difficult time were I to believe that Tim actually had something along the lines of, say, a potential new series of Knightmare, or even a way to do something new. He only made one, very vague, post, which could have been made on a whim sans prayer. He could have just had a vague idea inside his head. Just a concept? They are created all the time, after all.

    My reckoning is, Tim never would have anything to stir us up in 2009. He may have thought he would at one point, hence the post - but I'm pretty sure he actually didn't get as far as he (we?) thought he would. As has been said, InterMediaLab actually haven't done anything recently - well, have you seen them do anything? At the very least, Televirtual worked on their V-Actor thing, but I've not seen InterMediaLab doing anything! - and it's entirely conceivable that, in the aftermath of the credit crunch, they decided the only viable thing to do would be to close voluntarily.

    Sorry to be a pessimist, but I think that there isn't anything to talk about, and there's no company to provide us with it, either.

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      Interim update - the domain intermedialab.co.uk was renewed for a further two years. There's no website and there's a possibility that it happened automatically - mine are set to do that.

      I've also found out that Broadsword Interactive Limited - http://www.broadsword.co.uk/ - a spin-off from Broadsword Television were liquidated on 29th September. The MD was David Rowe, the artist responsible for the drawings used in the design of the early series dungeons.

      The proposal to strike off Broadsword Television is still ongoing. There was a previous strike off attempt in 2008 but it was called off for reasons unknown to me - possibly a creditor objected. Doing some further research, if it is struck off and dissolved then the assets pass to the Crown. If I recall correctly then Broadsword Television own the rights to Knightmare - Knightmare would effectively be nationalised!

      By the way, the last episode was broadcast for the first time 15 years ago today...

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      • MystaraM
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        Mystara
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        With respect to the rights, it's more compliated than that.

        Apparently ITN hold 50% of the rights.

        https://www.twicetwice.co.uk/

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          tiggy
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          Thanks - happy to be corrected on that.

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          • MystaraM
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            Mystara
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            As I say, it's more complicated. I'm not entirely clear whether it's just the format rights, or profit rights or whatever.

            I know that ITN has held on to something though. I believe Tim Child himself (rather than any company) holds the remainder of the rights.

            https://www.twicetwice.co.uk/

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              Well, Broadsword Television Productions Limited has been struck off and dissolved as of today. This was for non-filing of anything at Companies House for a long, long time. Intermedialab is currently being wound up, and from the information I found on the Companies House website, it would appear to be compulsory rather than voluntary. I wonder what happened?

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                Naitch
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                It's a real shame that 'something' has come to nothing

                I too wonder what happened?

                I guess most of us were probably hoping against hope for the announcement of a new series?

                If only we could get some word as to what 'something' might have been...

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                  Naitch
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                  Is that it then?

                  Has 'Something' turned into nothing?

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                    tiggy
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                    Is that it then?

                    Has 'Something' turned into nothing?

                    I guess so, that is for anything new and official on the Knightmare side of things. I read somewhere a while back that 99% of children's programmes shown in the UK are imported. Of the 1% that aren't, only the BBC are making/commissioning new programming. That may go some way to explain why any concept that Tim Child may have had didn't get off the ground. With only one broadcaster and banks not lending money, it was always going to be tricky. I suspect that like Knightmare was back in 1987, it was ahead of it's time, pretty spectacular, but unfortunately rather expensive . I would be fascinated to learn what it was and if TC fancies popping back in and letting us know what we missed out on...

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                      Naitch
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                      Is that it then?

                      Has 'Something' turned into nothing?

                      I guess so, that is for anything new and official on the Knightmare side of things. I read somewhere a while back that 99% of children's programmes shown in the UK are imported. Of the 1% that aren't, only the BBC are making/commissioning new programming. That may go some way to explain why any concept that Tim Child may have had didn't get off the ground. With only one broadcaster and banks not lending money, it was always going to be tricky. I suspect that like Knightmare was back in 1987, it was ahead of it's time, pretty spectacular, but unfortunately rather expensive . I would be fascinated to learn what it was and if TC fancies popping back in and letting us know what we missed out on...

                      Well that is is indeed a shame if that is indeed the case!

                      I agree, it would be nice for Tim Child to pop back, even if just once more to give us any updates as to what happened, or in this case didn't happen...

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                        Drassil
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                        it does look as though you will have something to talk about

                        This Daily Mirror article from today mentions Knightmare. The good news is that it includes an early publicity photo not seen before. The bad news is, unless I'm missing something, that it has quoted from Tim Child's 'SOMETHING STIRS' post of 4 years ago as if it were current.

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                          Canadanne
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                          This Daily Mirror article from today mentions Knightmare. The good news is that it includes an early publicity photo not seen before. The bad news is, unless I'm missing something, that it has quoted from Tim Child's 'SOMETHING STIRS' post of 4 years ago as if it were current.

                          Is that picture taken from the pilot, do you think? I don't recognise the dungeoneer's jumper.

                          Shame about the Mirror falsely getting people's hopes up. 😕

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                            Drassil
                            Senior staff
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                            #78

                            The jumper's familiar from various magazine articles on the website, including some from 1987, so it could well date from the pilot, or from a dedicated pre-Series 1 publicity shoot.

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                              PKB
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                              Someone care to scan the article and post it please?

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                              • JamesAJ
                                JamesAJ
                                JamesA
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                                Someone care to scan the article and post it please?

                                I haven't scanned the full article (the link to the online version I think is sufficient enough) but I have scanned the part containing the bit on Knightmare - you can find it here:

                                http://t.co/ySW6KM7n

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                                  PKB
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                                  Thanks. I don't recognise the kid, could this be a publicity shot?

                                  Paul.

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                                  • JamesAJ
                                    JamesAJ
                                    JamesA
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                                    As mentioned by Drassil in an earlier post today:

                                    The jumper's familiar from various magazine articles on the website, including some from 1987, so it could well date from the pilot, or from a dedicated pre-Series 1 publicity shoot.

                                    Also, I'd like to point out:

                                    This Daily Mirror article from today mentions Knightmare. The good news is that it includes an early publicity photo not seen before.

                                    The publicity photo in question can be seen in full via this link, the page also features some other Knightmare pictures which I believe don't feature on the knightmare.com website:

                                    http://www.tvcream.co.uk/?p=1193

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                                      Canadanne
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                                      The publicity photo in question can be seen in full via this link, the page also features some other Knightmare pictures which I believe don't feature on the knightmare.com website:

                                      http://www.tvcream.co.uk/?p=1193

                                      Very cool page, hadn't seen that before! Wow, it's funny to see what Lillith's domain really looked like. Nice pic of Motley & Melly too. Thanks James!

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                                      • MystaraM
                                        MystaraM
                                        Mystara
                                        Administrators
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                                        Shame about the Mirror falsely getting people's hopes up. 😕

                                        Well, of course, it's possible that they know something we don't. It would seem a bit odd for them to draw a conclusion from a very old thread, and not even read the latest posts.

                                        https://www.twicetwice.co.uk/

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                                          Drassil
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                                          Thank you for the link to the TV Cream page, James. One I'd either forgotten or never seen!

                                          Wow, it's funny to see what Lillith's domain really looked like.

                                          Now that I had seen before - in SFX in 2008 and again courtesy of James.

                                          Shame about the Mirror falsely getting people's hopes up. 😕

                                          Almost the opposite of what happened here.

                                          Well, of course, it's possible that they know something we don't.

                                          You may be in a minority in wanting to give a tabloid newspaper the benefit of the doubt! You yourself passed on the information 'from reliable sources that Tim Child has officially "retired"', so I suppose it's up to you whether you deem the Daily Mirror equally reliable.

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