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Capaldi? At last the mold is broken.

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    Kieran
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    I am delighted with Capaldi landing the role.

    Age is never a problem for me (young or old, it's the acting/character that counts), but I am glad they went with someone on the other side of 50 (55, to be exact, the same age as William Hartnell when he started )

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    • HStormH
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      HStorm
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      Don't get me wrong, age isn't necessarily an issue for me either - not nearly as much as it appears to be for the series itself - I just want things varied up a bit more. A common complaint since the 'classic' series ended is that it's becoming increasingly difficult to tell one Doctor from the next - there are strong resemblances, it has been argued, between the eighth, ninth, tenth and eleventh Doctors, and several aspects in particular are that they have all been in the same age bracket, are all very tall, and all have dark hair. Capaldi, as you say, is as good an actor as anyone who has played the Doctor since, probably, Patrick Troughton. But he also finally changes the image a bit. (Curiosity point: He is someone more akin to Jon Pertwee than David Tennant, while also having similar eyes to Tom Baker.) He's an excellent choice, and it's refreshingly brave of the series to take a chance on someone a bit older again, rather than going for the presumed 'ratings-pull' of a young poster-boy.

      And no, I'm not saying the poster-boys were necessarily bad for the role. Matt Smith was a real natural for the part, it was just a bit samey to have him take over from David Tennant.

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      • wombstarW
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        wombstar
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        Well I thought Matt and David were completely different. (Never liked David, loved Matt)

        But 55 isn't really old anymore, I mean 55 is younger today than it was when Hartnell was in it.

        But I fear this wont last, and it will be a short stay. We know the Moff wants to use up this 13 lives rule so he can do whatever he wants to secure the next 50 years of the show, his already tamped with the past and he wants to make sure his vision can't be changed. Sooner we get a new show runner the better.

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        • GundradaG
          GundradaG
          Gundrada
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          I would be more inclined to say that the mould was broken when Doctor Who came back on our screens, and we've had 3 relatively young, "sexeh" Doctors, so anyone whining about how "ancient" Capaldi is, or how "groundbreaking" an "old" Doctor is, hasn't seen much of the series prior to Ecclestone/Tennant.

          I, personally, cannot wait to see what Capaldi will interpret the role

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            Kieran
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            Well I thought Matt and David were completely different. (Never liked David, loved Matt)

            But 55 isn't really old anymore, I mean 55 is younger today than it was when Hartnell was in it.

            But I fear this wont last, and it will be a short stay. We know the Moff wants to use up this 13 lives rule so he can do whatever he wants to secure the next 50 years of the show, his already tamped with the past and he wants to make sure his vision can't be changed. Sooner we get a new show runner the better.

            The 13 lives "rule" was never set in stone, and was always likely to change. Once we're at the 14th then...would they just cancel the whole thing? No.

            Whether Steven Moffat is in charge at the time or not is irrelevant. Someone will have to make that decision at some stage. I don't see that as tampering with the past, I see that as securing the future.

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            • HStormH
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              HStorm
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              It was established as far back as The Five Doctors (thirty years ago - ouch, I feel ancient!) that it was possible to 're-boot' a Time-Lord's regeneration cycle, when Borusa offered the Master the chance of a new body in return for help finding the Doctor. And sure enough, in the Time War he did get a new regeneration cycle. So if it could be done for him, we can be sure they'll come up with a way for the same to happen for the Doctor.

              We know the Moff wants to use up this 13 lives rule

              I'm not sure where we 'know' that from, and it doesn't seem to fit the facts. The first lead-actor since Moffat took over the show lasted four years, and left at his own wish rather than the producer's. Four years is about the average tour-of-duty for anyone playing the Doctor, so I can't see much evidence of Moffat trying to rush anything.

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              • wombstarW
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                wombstar
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                I know they'll go beyond 13.. but that whole things needs to be addressed, it's been a major part of the show so they can't ignore it.

                And i'm pretty sure the Moff wants to do that himself so he can establish 'his' Doctor who vision in the future, even when his gone.

                Hurt's Doc is either going to jump all the other up a place, it's be pretty much confirmed h's between 8 and 9. (or it's solved with Moff get out of jail card the 'reset' button)

                we'll see.

                Bring back the evil clown circus!!!

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                • PookaP
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                  Pooka
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                  Mould! Not mold!

                  In any case, I think Capaldi is an excellent choice. Reflecting on this, and all the points made above (can't add anything else that hasn't been said yet), I can't think of anyone better, really.

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                  • HStormH
                    HStormH
                    HStorm
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                    #13

                    You can spell it either way in fact.

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                      dugeoneerborne
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                      Long as it gets us away from the james bond doc who and more towards the proper one wh doesn't have his assistants hit on him and have darker stories I'm all for this, I've hated who for a while because of this.

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                      • wombstarW
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                        wombstar
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                        So you're not a fan of the 3rd Doctor then? He was a bit of a James Bond type you could say. Plus what's a 'proper' one? Matt is very much like the 2nd, probably the most 'Doctor' since the revival.

                        I agree having him want to sleep with all his assistance it irrataing but I guess that's part of the times we live in.

                        Peter cushing was one of my favorites and I don't care if he doesn't count. lol

                        But then I Cushing fan, love Hammer horror.

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                        • HStormH
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                          HStorm
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                          Speaking for myself, I've never thought much of the Third Doctor. An action hero Doctor always seems a bit of lazy writing to me (similar story at times with the Fifth and Sixth Doctors whenever Eric Saward was script editing - tended to sidestep around the idea of the Doctor outwitting his opponents and just have him draw a gun and blow da muvvas away), less interesting than a shrewd, calculating Doctor.

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                            Kieran
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                            Long as it gets us away from the james bond doc who and more towards the proper one wh doesn't have his assistants hit on him and have darker stories I'm all for this, I've hated who for a while because of this.

                            They're all 'proper', just all a bit different (with some similarities of course....)

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                            • wombstarW
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                              wombstar
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                              Have to say the 3rd is my least favourite, followed by the 10th.

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                              • GundradaG
                                GundradaG
                                Gundrada
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                                Have to say the 3rd is my least favourite, followed by the 10th.

                                Controversial, there

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                                • wombstarW
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                                  wombstar
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                                  In the minority, not that I disliked him but I liked the others better.. someone has to come last or second from last in the list.. lol I thought 10 was too 'human'

                                  What's worse is his my brothers doctor, lol he does the 10th look a like at many charity events and conventions, looks just like a younger version.

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                                    BBrooks
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                                    A common complaint since the 'classic' series ended is that it's becoming increasingly difficult to tell one Doctor from the next - there are strong resemblances, it has been argued, between the eighth, ninth, tenth and eleventh Doctors, and several aspects in particular are that they have all been in the same age bracket, are all very tall, and all have dark hair.

                                    I remember posting about this back in 2010 when Matt's first series was about to air, I can't believe how quickly them four years have gone. When The Doctor regenerates this time, those similarities will finally get burnt away for good and we'll witness the biggest physical transformation since Colin Baker into Sylvester McCoy. I've loved all of the Nu-Who Doctors though, in particular Christopher Eccleston who left just as he was getting REALLY good. Peter Capaldi is a brilliant choice, has anyone else noticed his resemblance to Edward Tudor-Pole (The Crystal Maze).

                                    Also, I'm not liking the amount of Third Doctor hate comments in this thread. 🙂 Jon Pertwee's Action Man style was a trend-setter for the DW episodes we get nowadays. But that's just my opinion, I'd love to see a Doctor with good fighting skills again!

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                                    • wombstarW
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                                      wombstar
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                                      Christopher Eccleston was great, wish he did another year, more disappointed he refused to return for the 50th.

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                                        TimeMaster
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                                        Just been watching re-runs of Christopher Eccleston's Doctor. How under rated is he?! I did love David Tennant's Doctor, but Christopher Eccleston has more of an edge to him.

                                        Unfortunately I ended up giving up on Matt Smith's Doctor. It wasn't so much him - but the fact that if I missed one episode I found it hard to follow the overall story arc. Since Russell T Davies left the stories have become a lot more complicated.

                                        I am intrigued by the casting of Peter Capaldi though and might give the series another go. It's great to cast an older Doctor - a hark back to the classic series and a realisation that the Doctor is more than just an action hero!

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                                        • wombstarW
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                                          wombstar
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                                          wouldn't call them complicated, I think they're trying to be too clever at times and it doesn't work. starting to get a bit repetitive now however.

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