5 characters you'd like to see return
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My top character (or rather threat) has returned- Arieadnie!!! I was very pleased to see her!!I think she would be a great threat to any new Knightmare!!
I would really like to see Morghana return! Scary woman!!!
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In addition to Treguard, Lord Fear and Lissard, I’d bring the following five back:
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Pickle – I know helpers are a bit controversial with some but I had no issue at all with Tregard having helpers. I quickly grew to like him and thought he did add nicely to the dynamic of the show.
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Motley – I was a big fan of his and much preferred him over Folly who to be honest I found rather irritating.
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Sylvester Hands – One ‘baddie’ who you could feel had a good side in him and one you could get around (if you had the right objects or ‘gift of the gab’) to continue. A really likeable character. Probably my second favourite ‘baddie’ to Lord Fear, actually.
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Hordress - As a child I saw him as a large, bold and incredibly powerful character when he wanted to be.
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Sidress – I always had a soft spot for her and probably one of the kindest and softest character that the game seen. I always got a sense of relative safety (ish!) when a dungeoneer come to a room with her in.
If I could bring back another it would have to be Lilith. She just misses out on my own ‘top five’. Indeed, very much a character who could be both reasonably kind to being downright devious and nasty to a dungeoneer. On a similar note, Queen Greystagg would be someone else who’d I’d be very happy to see return if we could have more than five. She’d be battling Lilith for a sixth spot in my list!
Good old Smirkenorff would be another one on the ‘close / also ran’ list if we could have more.
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YES, the dungeons need Smirky...it simply wouldn't be the same without having his infamous dragons sense of humor and wit around, not at all!
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Sylvester Hands - 2nd best character after Lord Fear
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Motley - Best jester in Knightmare
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Hordriss - Knightmare wouldn't be the same without him!
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Sidress - Couldn't leave out Hordriss' daughter!
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Mildread - Best witch in Knightmare
Id argue Folly and Grimwold were the best jester and witch. (although im not sure Grimwold was a witch was she? Motley didn't bother to paint his face and wasn't a real Jester, made worse that he was in the show for soooo long.
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Id argue Folly and Grimwold were the best jester and witch. (although im not sure Grimwold was a witch was she? Motley didn't bother to paint his face and wasn't a real Jester, made worse that he was in the show for soooo long. [/quote]
I just think that Motley was more entertaining and mote interactive with the dungeoneers. I think that reflects why he was in the show for the rest of the series. I did like Folly too but out of the jesters I'd pick Motley! I thought the same for Mildread too. Miss Grimworld wad good but I just think Mildread, especially when she impersonates the teams edges it for me.
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Mildread was great and one evil witch.. nobody else tried to fool the teams like she did. Grimwold added more comic relief but wasn't much of a treat.
I don't have anything positive to say about Motley, thought he was really dull.
Nobody has mentioned Skarkill, he was a great Goblin master
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Lissard was never seen in the dungeon was he?
He can be a bit irritating, but then Skarkill was a bit of a dunce at times.
I certainly didn't like his replacement Snapper Jack.
I can remember of Lord fear's Wall monster but after awhile he became irritating but it's hard to imaging Fear without his troops.
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I liked Snapper Jack, I thought he was one of the highlights of series 8 and harked back to the earlier series with his riddles. Didn't like Raptor who took over from Skarkill, thought he was too wooden.
Snapper Jack and Skarkill just missed out on my top 5 characters that I would like to see return. 5 isn't enough!!
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Would you say that Snapper Jack was a replacement for Skarkill? Jack seemed like a lone agent to me. I've always seen Raptor as Skarkill's replacement.
Might have been thinking of Raptor, but as neither Raptor or Skarkill were in series 8 I just assumed Jack replaced them.
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Heh, sorry to keep correcting you, Wombstar, but Raptor was in series 8. He was the Goblin Master in season 7, then Master of the Miremen in season 8.
http://www.knightmare.com/series/series-8/1004-series-8-opposition
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lol oh dear.
This it what happens when you watch someone once every ten years.
Challenger better show it all cause clearly mu memory is shot.
On a side note I hated that character.
Yes he wasn't the best character but Ridolfo who was played by the same actor Adrian Neil was good and deserved more than 1 series.
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Oh there are many and I'm going to cheat a little including some actors who played more than one charater and counting both of those characters as one entry
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Brother Mace: great at improvising and an all-round enjoyable character who could work in a lot of different situations. I think hs character was limited by always sitting behind a table. Would be fun to see him help a dungeoneer along a floor puzzle or face some other challenge together. Basically I think the actor was great and I would throw him into as many different situations as possible!
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Pickle - but IN the dungeon. I think he'd work well as a character in the actual game play, plus he could wind Treguard up by cheating (much like he sometimes did in the antichamber by saying too much or sneaking food into the napsack).
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Greystagg/Sidress - both great characters particularly the former. Characters who were "potential allies but ultimately unaligned" were almost a cliché in KM but this one pulled it off perfectly. You knew she'd help a dungeoneer but you also knew they'd have to tread VERY carefully with her. You could tell she really detested dungeoneers but only helped them because she detested Lord Fear that little bit more. As for Sidress, she wouldn't be my top choice for characters to bring back, but I did find her funny and since we're bringing the actress back we might as well have both characters.
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Gundrada/Malice - in this instance I very much like both characters and would choose them both even if I was forced to put them in seperate entries. I think Samantha Perkins as Gundrada was one of the best in the series at improvising. She quickly built up a comfortable rapport with the dungeoneers and provided humour and a great deal of help to the team, while ultimately keeping her selfishness in the end ("I'm a bit bored of this now, I'm off!")
As for Malice, despite having a kick-ass name for a villain, she was deliciously malevolent. I loved that in some quests she was the Big Bad of level 3, and in others she could be found in level 1 handing out the eye shield. You never quite knew just what her motive was, but you were always sure she couldn't be trusted one bit. She was scary when she appeared all giant-faced and lightning-eyes, but she was even more unsettling when she was suspiciously trying to befriend them.
- I would say Ariadne, but I guess she's more of a monster than a character, so my 5th choice would have to be Skarkill. I think he's an underrated character. I love lissard and also Sylvester 'Ands (who doesn't?) but they both had comedy elements to their characters and while Skarkill did as well, he was much more serious. He really wanted to kill those dungeoneers. And since my other entries inluded a lot of comedy characters I had throw in someone who was a genuine threat and there are few scenes in Knightmare more menacing than the Dwarf Tunnel scene where you can hear Skarkill's voice hunting and taunting the dungeoneer... chilling!!
There are other characters who I LOVED in the original series but plumped not to include - for example Hordriss. Everyone loves Hordriss, he's awesome. But I think by the time we reached Series 8, he'd done all he could do. He'd been in every situation, and he'd gone from untrustworthy mage to pompus but kindly old grandfatherly type figure. He was great but I'm not sure what he'd contribute to new episodes that were original. I'd rather see someone new offer something... new! And I say that with no disrespect to Hordirss as a character or Clifford Norgate who played him.
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Yep, there are so many great characters it'd be easy to list dozens of them - the limit of only 5 is so that we're forced to really evaluate which ones play an important role or would have something new to offer. I suppose the same-actor cheating is acceptable though.
I find it quite hard to pick just 5. I'd have Cedric and Snapper-Jack because they're both personal favourites who weren't in it for very long, and I'd want to see some riddles in a new series. Brother Mace for exactly the reasons given in the post above - a very versatile character and Mike Cule can always be relied upon to come out with something clever and amusing off the top of his head. Aesandre, because I thought she was funny and very under-used, and I would love to see more communication between her and Fear. Not sure about the last spot... I too thought about Pickle as an in-dungeon character just because I'd really like to see him again.
I'm enjoying the variety of answers in this thread, btw!
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Hmmmmm here's an interesting thread. I'm going to discount Hordriss, Sidriss & Smirkenoff from my list not because I don't want them back but because I think I'd just be repeating what others have already said so I'm going to offer up some other choices. I'm also not including Brother Strange as I imagine if Clifford Barry came back as Lissard in a full series revival we would probably see our friendly but mysterious wandering Monk with a passion for proverbs again also.
So my top 5 would have to be...
1. Motley/Sly Hands:
Motley to me was the best Jester in the Original series character wise. He was always a reassuring and welcome sight when ever he would appear on screen and also he wasn't afraid to stand up to The Opposition when the need arouse such as standing up to Olaf and scarring off Ariadne (Save of course for that incident with Bhal-Sheba in Series 8 but then that team deserved no help anyway Evil snigger)
And ol' Sylvester "Sly" Hands was a staple of Lord Fear's version of The Opposition from it's introduction in Series 5 right up till the bitter end of Series 8. He could be both comical and threatening/scary (see his capture of January in Series 6, I've never seen a Dungoneer react so scared of a character who's about to 'kill' them as she did when Hands came at her with that magic rope of his)
2. Stiletta:
The Cunning, daring, resourceful, dangerous and undeniably sexy Warrior-Thief, about whom the only thing sharper then her green bladed throwing knives was her cut glass accent and who was played with great gusto and enthusiasm by the talented and delectable Joanne Heywood deserved more then one series (and a truncated one at that)
Stiletta was probably (along with a later choice on this list) the best bit of Series 8 she was a character with a lot of story line/character development potential that sadly never got realized on screen.
3. Elita:
This choice should come as no surprise to people who have known me for a while in the KM Online community as I have never made any secret of the fact that I used to crush big time on this loud mouthed (and in my opinion very sexy) cavern elf.
But that personal reason aside for wanting to see Elita back in the Dungeon, I feel she was a great character who still had plenty of potential for use in the Quest. Plus she was a far better 'keeper/bargain maker' for Smirkenoff then Rohmana the Airwan ever was.
Plus it's always great to have an unpredictable element in the dungeon like Elita who you can never really 100% know which way she's going to go at any given time.
4. Honesty Bartram/Aecandra:
Yes, yes I know I'm technically cheating here by picking two characters for one spot...
But then again I'm part of The Opposition when have we ever played by the rules? >:D
Honesty Bartram, like Stiletta, suffered from being in a truncated Series (Series and as such never got to be used to the full potential the character seemed (to me at least) to have going for him.
Yes he was a replacement of sorts for Julius Scaramounger however I think he had one interesting character difference to Julius that I would have really liked to seen explored more then it was. That being that while Bartram was shifty and a bit of a rouge I don't think he was as...Opposition/criminal/evilly minded as Julius was.
I offer as evidence of this the fact that Bartram seemed a lot less keen to do business with Lord Fear the Julius ever was as even in Series 5 although he politely turned down Lord F's offer to join the Opposition Julius never had to be bullied or coerced into doing business with Lord Fear as Bartram had to be in Series 8. Also Bartram was a lot easier to convince to do the right thing (for a reward of coarse) then Julius was, even right at the end when he desperately needed money Julius was quite prepared to do Lord Fear's bidding and sell Elita in to slavery rather then take Dungeoneer Chris's gold and had to be forced into doing so. I also can't imagine Bartram being a willing participant in the Red Death plot of Series 6 like Julius was even going so far as to personally sneak the dragon caller into Wolfenden.
(on a side note: I also wouldn't mind seeing Bill Cashmore reprise Snapper-Jack as well if he did come back as Honesty Bartram, Snapper-Jack was a brilliant and creepy addition to the Dungeon as a deranged free agent type villain/threat)
Aecandra, The evil Sorceress/Queen of Winteria again like a lot of character's she is one who suffers from unrealized potential due to only having limited appearances in one season. She was a great allie/foil for Lord Fear as his equal/partner in crime.
Imagine not only more of her conspiring with Lord Fear against Dungeoneers who are 'invading' her kingdom and bringing in "Unhealthy warmth' with them but also scenes between her and Greystagg or Hordriss. I could imagine even a three way rivalry between her Lord Fear & Greystagg defiantly she would make a great additional threat to Greystagg and her Grey Sisters.
5. Skarkill:
No Surprise here is there really
Skarkill was, is and remains in my mind the most effective In-Dungeon Villain there ever was in the later series. He was intimidating, frightening and a very legitimate threat to any quest that he and his Goblin Horde of Grippa, Rhark and Tiny happened to cross paths with.
And unlike his successor Raptor was actually able to bag himself a victim when he clapped the Irons on Richard in Series 5 and given the right circumstances there is little doubt that he could have done it again had the situation arouse.
I think there is still plenty that could be done with Skarkill if he was to return and resume his reign of Terror in the Dungeon.
Well those are my top 5 characters I would like to see Return if Knightmare was revived due to the Geek Week special. Just missing out on my top 5 where
Wall-Monster Branwagan-Shee, Mellisandra, & Brother Mace/Fatilla The Hun
I would also like to say though that I would also like the 3 new characters who appeared in the Special
Dasiy, Sylvester The Jester & Theodora Snitch to make a return as they all (to me) seemed to have potential and promise
Daisy: to me seemed like a better rendition of the idea behind Majida in that she wasn't to annoying and intrusive into the running of the quest but also neither was she a carbon copy of Pickle and to subservient to Treguard while at the same time she didn't diminish his standing as Dungeon Master.
Sylvester The Jester: I do like the idea of a Jester character who is not necessarily trust worthy at all times and I could imagine some very good plot ideas and character scenes with him especially if Motley is brought back it would be interesting to see the 'good' Jester feuding with the 'not so good' jester
Theodora Snitch: Of all 3 new Dungeon Denizens little Theodora was the most interesting with her character being a cross between Stiletta and Elita she would make a great foil/rival for Sly Hands and would be great as the level 1/2 pact maker with the Dungeoneers trading information and help in return
for the Dungeoneers doing or retrieving something for her.
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