Knightmare Commentary Tracks
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I'm about to email you to this effect, but it's clear you have grounds to file a counter-notification per 4shared's policy (see http://www.4shared.com/dmca.jsp)
There's nothing I hate more than copyright trolls, and while I'm not featured on the commentary tracks, as a Dunshelm Player I would urge you to go ahead. Hopefully 4squared follows their policy and sides with us.
In the worst case scenario, the files would need to be hosted elsewhere. There's free services like Tindeck and Soundcloud, or proper web hosting - I used to use Feralhost, for example.
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Forester has suggested that the whole business is a result of some kind of automated process; an algorithm that detected a similarity between our files and those of LeakID. Either way, it definitely counts as trolling.
Even if the soundtracks of the episodes were included in the Commentary tracks, we'd still be okay, as the Fair Use clause allows material to be used for purposes of parody or critique. By definition, the Commentaries are critiques. (But then the episode soundtracks are pretty much inaudible on the Commentaries anyway.) So even if it turns out that LeakID has links to ITN or Granada Media - which I'm sure they don't - they really haven't got a case.
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Even if the soundtracks of the episodes were included in the Commentary tracks, we'd still be okay, as the Fair Use clause allows material to be used for purposes of parody or critique.
Actually, UK law does not recognise parody as an exception for using copyrighted material.
It does recognise fair use for the purposes of commentary or review.
However, I think the bigger argument is that you don't (as far as I am aware) actually use anyone else's material. You (as a group) are the sole origin of any material.
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Knightmare Geek Week Commentary with Ross Thompson & Amy Davies - August 12th 2013
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Converted to MP3, which can be downloaded from http://tindeck.com/listen/rxxm.
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Thanks, Martin!
Also - thanks for the feedback, pjmlfc05. I remain convinced that it's 'heck' though!
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I've added a temporary link to the TDP front page. Once the Commentaries page has been restored and the old tracks re-uploaded, I will include a permanent link on there.
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Good work guys! But disagree with regarding Daisy and if she swore or not. I have seen this bit many times and for me, she dropped the F bomb!
Daisy says no such thing.
If you really want to convince yourself, watch her lips. She clearly says "Heck". What you're seeing is an optical illusion caused by the fact that the audio and video are ever-so-slightly out of sync.
Even from a common sense point of view...
Isy Suttie's a professional, her lines were scripted, and she knew perfectly well that the axes were coming and so wasn't at all surprised by them. Do you really think that she's likely to have sworn?
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Good work guys! But disagree with regarding Daisy and if she swore or not. I have seen this bit many times and for me, she dropped the F bomb!
Daisy says no such thing.
If you really want to convince yourself, watch her lips. She clearly says "Heck". What you're seeing is an optical illusion caused by the fact that the audio and video are ever-so-slightly out of sync.
It's only what I think! It's just how it sounded to me. If Isy says that she didn't swear, I would believe her. I'm sure that Tim would have re-shot the scene had she swore.
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It's only what I think! It's just how it sounded to me.
Oh, if you're only listening to it, then you're absolutely blameless.
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For what it's worth, I've just re-watched it, and to my ears, what Isy says is very clearly, 'What the heck is it?' But, time we settled this argument.
So here, I've extracted the line from the soundtrack and boosted the sound where she says, 'Heck'. Listen here.
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It's an unfortunately placed sound effect on the "he" of "heck".
It makes it sound like "what the <swish>uck is it" and your mind fills in the "f". With the out-of-sync video and audio, it's easy to conclude that she swears. But she doesn't.
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It's an unfortunately placed sound effect on the "he" of "heck".
It makes it sound like "what the <swish>uck is it" and your mind fills in the "f". With the out-of-sync video and audio, it's easy to conclude that she swears. But she doesn't.
That's fair enough! I guess it's the way it came across to me. It did make me chuckle though I admit!
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Knightmare Geek Week Commentary with Ross Thompson & Amy Davies - August 12th 2013
Thanks for recording this, I always enjoy listening to commentaries! I'm glad Amy finally did one, I thought she'd be good at it.
Regarding the spyglass scene and Theodora, I assume that the "goblin sticker" is the weapon Garstang is wielding (it looks like the spears used in pig-sticking), so they would have to tell her that it's in his possession.
Regarding the Level 2 clue objects, it sounds like they take the "jar of something" as well as the crystal, though a bit of discussion has obviously been edited out. If you listen carefully as they exit, Treguard can be heard saying "You've got the goblin powder". (Actually, watching this again, I wonder if they were supposed to use the goblin powder on Garstang, then take the weapon and pass it on to Theodora...)
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For completeness (and to help if they all get uploaded to one place some time), here is a list of all the commentaries that have been recorded.
A star separates each commentary on the same episode.
Series 1
Episode 1 – Martin * Jake
Episode 2 – Andy & Alastair * Jake
Episode 3 – Jake
Episode 4 – Jake
Episode 5 – Jake
Episode 6 – Martin * Jake & Rosey
Episode 7 – Jake
Episode 8 – Martin * Jake & Rosey
Series 2
Episode 1 – Jake
Episode 2 – Jake
Episode 3 – Martin * Jake & Ross
Episode 4 – Jake
Episode 5 – Martin * Jake * Rosey
Episode 6 – Jake
Episode 7 – Martin * Jake
Episode 8 – Jake * Rosey
Episode 9 – Jake * Rosey
Episode 10 – Jake
Episode 11 – Jake
Episode 12 – Martin * Jake
Episode 13 – Martin * Jake
Episode 14 – Jake & Rosey
Episode 15 – Jake
Episode 16 – Martin * Jake
Series 3
Episode 1 – Martin * Jake
Episode 2 – Jake
Episode 3 – Jake
Episode 4 – Martin * Jake & Ross
Episode 5 – Jake
Episode 6 – Martin * Jake
Episode 7 – Martin * Jake
Episode 8 – Jake
Episode 9 – Martin * Jake * Rosey
Episode 10 – Jake & Rosey
Episode 11 – Jake * Rosey
Episode 12 – Jake
Episode 13 – Martin * Jake
Episode 14 – Jake
Episode 15 – Jake & Rosey
Episode 16 – Martin * Jake
Series 4
Episode 1 – Martin * Jake
Episode 2 – Jake & Rosey
Episode 3 – Jake
Episode 4 – Jake & Rosey
Episode 5 – Ricky * Jake
Episode 6 – Ricky * Jake
Episode 7 – Jake
Episode 8 – Jake
Episode 9 – Martin * Jake & Rosey
Episode 10 – Jake
Episode 11 – Jake & Rosey
Episode 12 – Jake & Ricky
Episode 13 – Jake
Episode 14 – Jake & Rosey
Episode 15 – Martin * Jake & Rosey
Episode 16 – Jake
Series 5
Episode 1 – Martin * Jake & Rosey
Episode 2 – Ricky * Jake
Episode 3 – Jake & Rosey
Episode 4 – Jake & Rosey
Episode 5 – Jake
Episode 6 – Jake
Episode 7 – Jake, Rosey & Ross
Episode 8 – Jake & Rosey
Episode 9 – Jake & Rosey
Episode 10 – Jake & Rosey
Episode 11 – Jake & Ricky
Episode 12 – Jake & Rosey
Episode 13 – Jake & Ross
Episode 14 – Jake & Rosey
Episode 15 – Jake & Ross
Episode 16 – Jake & Ross
Series 6
Episode 1 – Jake
Episode 2 – Jake
Episode 3 – Jake
Episode 4 – Jake
Episode 5 – Jake & Andy
Episode 6 – Jake & Andy
Episode 7 – Jake
Episode 8 – Jake
Episode 9 – Jake & Rosey
Episode 10 – Jake & Rosey
Episode 11 – Jake & Rosey
Episode 12 – Jake & Rosey
Episode 13 – Jake & Rosey
Episode 14 – Jake & Ricky
Episode 15 – Jake & Ricky
Series 7
Episode 1 – Jake * Rosey
Episode 2 – Ross * Jake
Episode 3 – Jake & Rosey
Episode 4 – Jake & Ross
Episode 5 – Jake
Episode 6 – Jake * Rosey
Episode 7 – Jake & Rosey
Episode 8 – Jake * Rosey & Ross
Episode 9 – Jake & Rosey
Episode 10 – Jake & Rosey
Episode 11 – Jake & Rosey
Episode 12 – Jake & Rosey
Episode 13 – Jake & Rosey
Episode 14 – Jake & Rosey
Episode 15 – Ross * Jake & Rosey
Series 8
Episode 1 – Jake * Rosey
Episode 2 – Jake * Rosey
Episode 3 – Jake & Rosey
Episode 4 – Jake
Episode 5 – Jake
Episode 6 – Jake & Rosey
Episode 7 – Jake & Rosey
Episode 8 – Jake & Ross
Episode 9 – Jake * Ross * Rosey
Episode 10 – Jake * Rosey
Other
Le Chevalier du Labyrinthe – Ross & Jake
El Rescate Del Talisman – Ross & Jake
Knightmare VR – Ross & Jake
Knightmare Geek Week – Ross & Amy
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Here's another one (that I just recorded):
Knightmare Series 7 Episode 12 - Ross Thompson
I can't see a way to either edit my above post or delete it and make a new one to add the commentary to the list.
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