Hope for Knightmare on Challenge? TV?
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 God, I'm so mad at that stupid Challenge? network.  I waited eagerly for some more encouraging words after yesterday's episode, but there weren't any.  Maybe it was just a case of a misinformed Games Jockey person. I was really excited for a while, too. -
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 God, I'm so mad at that stupid Challenge? network.  I waited eagerly for some more encouraging words after yesterday's episode, but there weren't any.  Maybe it was just a case of a misinformed Games Jockey person. I was really excited for a while, too.Yes, I'm afraid I think it might have been a case of misinformation. I asked about it on *Challenge?'*s forum, but (of course!) haven't had a reply yet. switch off flippant mode
engage optimistic mode A lot of viewers have stated their opinions on Challenge?'s forums, and I still urge people to go and say their piece to try to convince them to continue showing this programme. I've been really heartened to see so many people state their opinions, and it'd be great to get the thread up above 100 replies. There's always a chance they will listen, and we can hope (even if we don't believe) that the GJ on Saturday knows something good that we don't. Â
Here's the thread's 3rd page: http://www.challengetv.co.uk/ubb/Forum5/HTML/000144-3.html
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I'm afraid I don't remember. The email definitely asked them not to take KM off the air. The part that was read out didn't mention Takeshi's Castle, although that doesn't mean it wasn't mentioned in the email itself.
The KM thread on *Challenge?'*s forum has now hit 100 replies.
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How about we ambush the other threads too? Go on Takeshi's Castle threads and ask if they think that Takeshi's Castle is like a foreign version of Knightmare or how it compares to Knightmare, and see if we can change all the threads into KM based discussions! If it's mentioned everywhere, they can't avoid it!!!
Right?
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Some threads just get hijacked naturally, like when someone posts saying "Beadle's About is the best show in the world", people might well fairly reply "No, sorry Mrs. Beadle. Knightmare is". But I don't think deliberately hijacking all the other threads would be particularly beneficial. One really good thing has been that the regulars on the Challenge? forum have been as enthusiastic about KM as the KM fans who've gone there. And now many of their new regulars are KM fans, pure and simple. I wouldn't want to risk that useful relationship.
However, I still think it stinks that Challenge? see fit just to ignore our messages. I think we've been fair, and that our criticism has been constructive. If they listened they might learn a bit. On certain other threads they have been replying, so it really is a case of ignoring the KM issue. I think we have valid points and a lot of valid questions which they haven't even tried to answer. I wouldn't mind at all if they gave us fair and frank reasons to justify their decision- but they haven't. And if ratings are the issue, then, as we've all pointed out, it's their own fault for making such a mess of marketing the programme. I think we deserve a response to that point too.
Being militant and upsetting Challenge? clearly isn't the answer. However, when people have tried to help and asked questions, I think they deserve an answer. I'm going to keep posting. I might post my points and questions in new threads, since they've ignored all our posts when we've kept our comments to one major thread. I don't think that's pushing them too far- those of us who've worked hard on everyone's behalf deserve a few answers.
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Some very good points there, GG. I agree that it would be nice to get some kind of feedback - the only way to get it is post on the forum asking the mods outright to comment. That was the only way of getting FTN to give some kind of response (courtesy of Abaddon).
Still, as beveryafraid said, getting Challenge to get even one series is an achievement seeing as they are more expensive than other programmes. They paid attention back then, didn't they?
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One of Challenge?'s official team has responded again on the main KM thread. I won't quote it all here, because I think doing so sometimes stops people going to Challenge?'s own forum and contributing.
The general message, however:
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We can't advertise every programme
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We do take into account a lot of factors when considering whether to buy (further) series of programmes.
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We are currently monitoring KM's ratings.
So, at least those of us who posted got an answer of sorts. I still don't think some of the logic is completely sound, but I for one think we've now made the point on the advertising and such. Even if they won't admit it directly, I think they realise they approached the marketing of this programme with an inappropriate attitude.
The last line of the post was, however, interesting:
"Just purely out of interest, if we were to buy another series, which one would you suggest?"
I would quickly add that they have NOT committed themselves to buying another series. This may be "purely out of interest". It may be that they are seriously considering the possibility. For those of a cynical mindset, it may be an elaborate ploy to focus us on something other than pointing out their folly.
Anyway, the full text is on their forum, via the link I've posted far too many times already. Posts there are always welcome.
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I'm going to say 4 too.
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lol, what's all this?
http://www.challengetv.co.uk/ubb/Forum5/HTML/000261.html
Someone's been having a bit of fun...
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Yep, someone's decided to mess around. I assume it's the same guy who usually posts under "keenplayer(s)", who's been insulting other people and posting idiotic comments for several days now.
I also don't think Challenge? will appreciate this person offering to give away £1000 of their money. That's the total programme budget for the year!
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Its funny but on the new comment posted to the website, he said they didnt advertise Knightmare because they felt other programmes wanted the advertsing more( eg Orginal Productions that have never been seen before)
WTF do they mean by this, What orginal productions that havent been seen before, do they mean programmes like Takeshis Castle?? ?? If so I aint got a clue, personally I dont really agree with their reply. If you have a new programme that hasnt been shown on Challenge before, you should still give it a little bit of advertsing, Its seems ok saying they dont have the finacial resources but why do they still waste it on advertsing for shows like The Crystal Maze(which has been shown for years now) and the Price is right(Shown for quite a while now too) Â Also to think they didnt do a very simple announcement at the end of the Cult Selection at Christmas to say the show would be contining on the channel which could have been done for NOTHING BTW is just very annoying.
Also I suggested on their forums that I didnt really mind what series they showed if they did get the rights to another one as I really dont mind but did hint at showing Series 4 considering it seems logical after showing Series 3, this would show us Pickle, The Outdoor Scenes, The corridor of Blades and the use of the eyeshield being used. We could also view that classic Death too
Simon SideStep to the Left  ;D
 
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