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    Canadanne
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    I'm inclined to agree with you Fidjit, but I think we're in the minority there.

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      Fidjit
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      Well I guess it's worth giving anything another chance. Danger Mouse never really got that opportunity until now I just look at these programs companies that have massacred things like Thomas and Friends and Fireman Sam. It's like they took the program like it was a fruit and scooped out all that was good about it and left it like a mere shell 😕

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        pjmlfc05
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        I don't mean to be negative but I can't see it working. Don't get me wrong I'm all for a fresh new approach to an original series but, ask yourself this... Would you really want to improve the Mona Lisa?? Shouldn't any piece of good work be cherished, remembered, and appreciated for the piece that it is?? If it works then I will stand utterly corrected. But somehow I cannot see that one sticking

        I'm inclined to agree with you Fidjit, but I think we're in the minority there.

        I disagree. You only have to look at the geek week episode. With a few tweaks I think it could work. The kmvr approach would definately not work but the geek week episode showed how it could still be done.

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        • HobGoblinH
          HobGoblinH
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          For me, a new series would be less like trying to improve the Mona Lisa and more like trying to paint something new which is as good as the Mona Lisa. That is, the original will still be there in all its glory no matter what happens.

          The opportunities outweigh the risks IMHO.

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          • wombstarW
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            wombstar
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            If they don't try they've already failed.

            It's not like Tim is going to have George Lucas syndrome and touch the originals

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              Fidjit
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              Yeah that's a fair point. I suppose I'm just looking at the flip side of the coin, but I guess one has to be cautious about these things. Or to be more precise, don't get your hopes up

              If Knightmare were to make a return it would have to try and find that charm it once had. And I'm sorry to say as much as it was nice seeing Hugo and Knightmare again, I didn't like the Geek Week show 😕

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              • wombstarW
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                wombstar
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                Neither did I but the Geek week ep was quickly put together and made to certain specifications from youtube, and it just showed it doesn't really work using adults. The VR pilot was another experiment which didn't work either.

                I just think with modern tech a new knightmare has so many possibilities.

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                • MystaraM
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                  Mystara
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                  It was interesting to see at the convention that the recut Geek Week episode was actually extremely popular and was considered to be far better than the original Geek Week episode.

                  I think most people who saw it would agree that it worked.

                  https://www.twicetwice.co.uk/

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                  • wombstarW
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                    wombstar
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                    Yes the longer version was far superior to the released version, but I still don't think the show works with adult contestants, although id have to see more adult quests to judge properly, but the geek week ep wasn't a great representation of an adult version of the show (mainly due to it's spoofy nature). Maybe that was down to the circumstances it was made under or the short shooting schedule, or the contestants themselves.

                    Plus Treguard has more authority and a true purpose when dealing with kids.

                    I just see it as a bit of a novelty really.

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                      Fidjit
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                      I suppose to be fair it was a nice way to let people remember what Knightmare was. Most people I talk to about it don't remember until I say something like, "You know that program where a kid goes into a VR dungeon guided by his mates..."

                      It was nice to see it wasn't forgotten. It was just on the bland side. But for what we got it was okay.

                      I apologise for coming across unappreciative. (If that's the right word)

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                      • HobGoblinH
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                        Just read my original reaction to the Geek Week episode. I said I "would have preferred more navigational challenges" and bemoaned "the lack of wall monster" - the extended ep added two rooms which specifically address both these things!

                        Still a few weird editing errors though - notably the 'put the spyglass down!' bit.

                        There was talk of using the extended show as a pilot for a new series - does anyone know what happened to that plan?

                        Anyway, yes - a definite improvement!

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                        • MystaraM
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                          Mystara
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                          There was talk of using the extended show as a pilot for a new series - does anyone know what happened to that plan?

                          I believe it was used but that it hasn't been picked up yet.

                          https://www.twicetwice.co.uk/

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                            Fidjit
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                            If that pilot was to be do you reckon we'd be turned to for advice? After all, when it comes to the subject, who better to ask but the enthusiasts

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                            • MystaraM
                              MystaraM
                              Mystara
                              Administrators
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                              If that pilot was to be do you reckon we'd be turned to for advice?

                              I think it's highly unlikely.

                              https://www.twicetwice.co.uk/

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                                Fidjit
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                                Fairplay. Had a feeling that was a long shot idea. I just thought a community would serve a strong service to the plan

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                                • wombstarW
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                                  wombstar
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                                  Maybe the best thing to use a pilot is the original show itself.

                                  Thing that annoyed me the most with the Geek week were some of the camera shots, kept showing the advisors reactions to things but not showing the viewer what on earth was going on in the room. lol

                                  But the added wall monster and puzzle room certainly added a lot to the original released footage, made it feel more like a proper adventure. It's a pity they had to cut it down to 20 minutes or so, a real shame they didn't do it as a two part thing instead, would have been truer to the spirit of the show.

                                  Oh well, we can only look onwards.

                                  It's out of our hands really.

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                                  • MystaraM
                                    MystaraM
                                    Mystara
                                    Administrators
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                                    Maybe the best thing to use a pilot is the original show itself.

                                    Well, no, because the networks don't want Knightmare. They're all well aware of what Knightmare is/was and they don't want it. They want something new.

                                    And as I've said before, they're not interested in children's game/adventure shows.

                                    So a new pilot is needed, with adults.

                                    https://www.twicetwice.co.uk/

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                                      Fidjit
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                                      Mystara has a point. Kids are into adult programmes so having the adults doing this would be a big advance. Who knows, maybe Barry might kick Lord Fears backside for a second time XD

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                                      • wombstarW
                                        wombstarW
                                        wombstar
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                                        Maybe the time will eventually come, I guess it all depends what the current fashion is. I am a bit surprised at no network is interested considering how unique and different KM is to what's in the market now, but then it's a risk I guess and media people don't tend to take risks.

                                        Oh well, more reality tv, cooking shows, antiques, property programs and Gardening it is then

                                        Perhaps a show with adults will appeal to a wider audience.... OR there's no reason it couldn't be mixed? (a team of both)

                                        If they want something new than I can't see KM having any future, even with adults it's still the same sort of thing, and changing it anymore it becomes a completely different show altogether. As I keep saying, nobody really knows what the future will hold.

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                                        • MystaraM
                                          MystaraM
                                          Mystara
                                          Administrators
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                                          On the whole, the Geek Week episode was well received. It has about a 98.3% approval rating, last time I bothered to check.

                                          And of course, the recut version is far better.

                                          So I think an adult version would be fine.

                                          https://www.twicetwice.co.uk/

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