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    Canadanne
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    "The official YouTube channel for CITV Old Skool" has uploaded loads of Knightmare clips, which I assume they've had permission for:

    http://www.youtube.com/user/citvoldskool/videos

    There are three blocks of them, in amongst Super Gran and Stingray clips. (Was Stingray once on CITV?? I only remember it on BBC2.)

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    • HStormH
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      HStorm
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      I recall that Stingray was shown on ITV in the mornings during the summer holidays in 1989.

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        Drassil
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        Thank you for this news, Annie. I'm excited to see where CITV are going with this. My optimism is cautious though: it seems that the classic CITV episode uploads on ITV Player, which included most of Knightmare Series 3, have now been withdrawn.

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        • MystaraM
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          Mystara
          Administrators
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          I understand there was a minor legal dispute and CITV reacted by withdrawing the episodes.

          I am hoping that they will be restored soon since it should be easily fixable.

          https://www.twicetwice.co.uk/

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            Canadanne
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            I see they are still uploading new clips, some more were added just last week.

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            • MystaraM
              MystaraM
              Mystara
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              I find two things fascinating:

              1. The corridor of blades being referred to as "The Sawblade Corridor"

              2. That CITV consider it worthwhile posting these clips online, yet apparently have no interest in selling the episodes.

              Surely the point of posting clips is to encourage people to buy the episodes. As it stands, CITV are just dangling something without actually providing the mechanism for anyone to do anything except say "yeah, awesome show".

              https://www.twicetwice.co.uk/

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                Drassil
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                I find two things fascinating:

                1. The corridor of blades being referred to as "The Sawblade Corridor"

                2. That CITV consider it worthwhile posting these clips online, yet apparently have no interest in selling the episodes.

                1. Why didn't they just call it the CoB (Controversy of Boyd)?

                2. It is still unclear what CITV are trying to achieve by uploading so many individual scenes (and not just from Knightmare) with no contestant names, episode titles, episode numbers or series numbers. While I don't want to seem ungrateful, the fact that at least one clip is titled 'Knighmare' suggests that the uploaders aren't taking as much care and interest as they could be.

                If we assume that these Old Skool channel clips are 'legal', does that mean we can post links to them here, or do the usual copyright issues still apply?

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                • MystaraM
                  MystaraM
                  Mystara
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                  1. Why didn't they just call it the CoB (Controversy of Boyd)?

                  :-]

                  If we assume that these Old Skool channel clips are 'legal', does that mean we can post links to them here, or do the usual copyright issues still apply?

                  If the clips are legal, then there's no issue with reposting the links in the forum.

                  https://www.twicetwice.co.uk/

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                    Canadanne
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                    Yet more clips added today... there can't be much they haven't uploaded!

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                      Canadanne
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                      LOL, I just saw one of their video descriptions "The dungeoneer meets Grimaldine and Hordriss having hot fun together"!

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                      • HStormH
                        HStormH
                        HStorm
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                        O_O

                        There is no way that is not deliberate. Just no way.

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                          Canadanne
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                          I wonder why they don't seem to have uploaded any clips at all from Series 2? It's the only one that isn't represented.

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                            Drassil
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                            So many individual scenes ... with no contestant names, episode titles, episode numbers or series numbers.

                            To make the most of this authorised yet uncatalogued heap, someone would have to get them all into chronological order and then perhaps into series-by-series playlists.

                            So I have.

                            I'm fairly certain I've got all of the clips to date, and that the scene/quest/series gaps are ITV's rather than mine. For completeness, I've included ITV's duplicate uploads, which presumably were accidental.

                            Thank you to Jake and tom41, whose episode summaries (along with Knightmare.com's) helped with the ordering.

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                              Canadanne
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                              So many individual scenes ... with no contestant names, episode titles, episode numbers or series numbers.

                              To make the most of this authorised yet uncatalogued heap, someone would have to get them all into chronological order and then perhaps into series-by-series playlists.

                              So I have.

                              I'm fairly certain I've got all of the clips to date, and that the scene/quest/series gaps are ITV's rather than mine. For completeness, I've included ITV's duplicate uploads, which presumably were accidental.

                              Great work, David! I tried to make a chronological list recently too, though it was hard to tell if I found them all (and I obviously didn't, as your playlists contain nearly 40 clips I hadn't come across). I think you are currently missing these few:

                              Series 1:

                              The Key To Escaping - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzAyaMbDGho

                              Helen Wakes The Giant - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrXgi3BgwDQ

                              Richard Tries Answering Merlinês Riddles - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jp9M1-aKD3U

                              Series 3:

                              The Moving Wall - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBshW8avL_E

                              Series 4:

                              The challengers accept Hordriss' pact - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHfuPBA6xIo

                              Now The Ground Begins To Quake - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yipy2Q8Ebf0

                              Series 7:

                              Entering The Dark Tower - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNlyfpISR-s

                              Series 8:

                              Defective Skeletrons - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZwAKIchAeQ

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                                Drassil
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                                Thank you, Annie. Some of those I had overlooked when working through my list; some I had missed on YouTube. I hope that between us we've got all of them so far - and that ITV won't take them down, especially since some are now linked to from the Lexicon and some of my Knightmare.com articles.

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                                  I was viewing some old Knightmare clips on Youtube very recently and found a lot of them were represented by the CITV channel. I only watch the little bitesize ones of a few minutes instead of whole episodes so what was put on was well appreciated.

                                  It did feel strange watching clips from the the later series as haven't watched a full episode from this period for so long I can't remember. (Challenge only ever seem to feature series 1 and 2)

                                  Thank you for the above links provided, should be some action there I've yet to witness. I know there is a section here for it, but ideally would like to own a DVD collection of the series instead of being dependant of what the internet can offer. Last I read I don't think such a thing exists.

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                                    Drassil
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                                    All of the videos and playlists on the ITV Children's Classics YouTube channel, including the hundreds of Knightmare Series 1 and Series 3-8 clips, appear to have been made private. (My YouTube channel's chronological series-by-series playlists of those clips appear to have dropped out of public view as well.)

                                    I'm not sure when this happened but the clips were publicly available as recently as mid-January if not more recently.

                                    The videos offered a legal way to enjoy high quality clips and it's disappointing to lose that, even though it was always a risk.

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                                    • s4t8brettS
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                                      s4t8brett
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                                      That is disappointing news, Drassil, but thank you for letting us know. I always thought they would have remained, being commercially justified by the adverts.

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