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Series 6 Episode 3

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    Selphie
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    Something about the credits that have always bugged me; it seems strange to have the dungeoneer running around in a pretty suicidal way. Well I guess it bears slightly more resemblance to the show then the animated knight.

    This team are so polite to everyone, even to Elita who would press the patience of a saint!

    What was the point of the really long eyeshield sequence near the start where they go up to a ledge only to realise there's water and a drop and turn around? Just didn't really see the need for it.

    The team were bright to work out so quickly the correct Malefact calling. I do wonder how much research any team ever did before appearing on the show at this stage because I knew as a kid what Hordriss' calling name was. I'm not finding fault with the team, I'm simply curious. Giving Hordriss a daughter in this series so he had a weakness and leverage point was a good idea. Better then in series 7 when he just fell pray to LF's traps all the time.

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      HStorm
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      "Malefact/Marifact..." Chinese accent cough cough.

      "Dragons are categorised by colour..." Apparently green dragons are the finest, and so Smirky is presumably superior to black dragons like Bealwit...

      "Sumaya? O' course you somewhere, you right 'ere..."

      I'm really just stirring up the political correctness (spits) barrel by asking this of course, but do you reckon this is the most offensive episode in the history of the series?

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        Drassil
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        It always made me uncomfortable when Elita fired insults at a dungeoneer. But it made me even more uncomfortable when she switched to being helpful to a dungeoneer. Here, she helps Sumayya without asking for anything in return. I can't help wondering whether Sumayya should ideally have taken the salt from the clue room and given it to Elita for her ritual - even though Elita claims to have all the ingredients she needs, and much as I like how the team mentions the salt to help describe Sidriss' location to Hordriss. Sumayya completes Level 1 having used only one clue object and, like Ben 3 quests later, in the next episode we see her disembarking from Smirkenorff with an unused horn still in her hand (despite Pickle's claim that she was carrying no clues). Contrast this with Sophia's team, who are told explicitly that they left behind a Level 1 clue object they should have taken.

        Couldn't either Elita or Smirkenorff have been given some reason for asking for the horn, so that it wasn't redundant without explanation?

        The team also gets let off with the dragon ride in another way. Hordriss has told them that "dragons are categorised by colour", so when Smirkenorff asks them "which sort of dragons are the finest" - which, with the exception of Hordriss' entrance exam in Sophia's quest, is what passes for a riddle in Series 6 - they should have replied "Green" and not "It must be you" (even though Pickle encouraged them in giving the latter answer!).

        It's perhaps an injustice to Stephanie Hesp's performance that the advisors think Elita "looks friendly". I'm intrigued by Elita's comment that the elvish elders "can't do much" against Lord Fear. Did they try and fail, or not even dare to try... and what might "His Nastiness" have done to them?

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          Canadanne
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          I'm intrigued by Elita's comment that the elvish elders "can't do much" against Lord Fear. Did they try and fail, or not even dare to try... and what might "His Nastiness" have done to them?

          This may tie in with Elita's comments the year before, when Duncan rescues her after Skarkill locked her in a chest: "He was gonna send the goblins to take me off to Mount Fear. I suppose you know that no-one ever comes back from that place. Not even el-- not even my people!" So there must be other elves who were either imprisoned or killed by Lord Fear.

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            The team also gets let off with the dragon ride in another way. Hordriss has told them that "dragons are categorised by colour", so when Smirkenorff asks them "which sort of dragons are the finest" - which, with the exception of Hordriss' entrance exam in Sophia's quest, is what passes for a riddle in Series 6 - they should have replied "Green" and not "It must be you" (even though Pickle encouraged them in giving the latter answer!)

            By Pickle validating the team's answer, it would have then been harsh on the team if Smirkenorff said otherwise.If Pickle kept quiet, then the team should really answer 'green'. Trust Pickle to interfere again!!

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              Fidjit
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              One must wonder how in the heck the Powers That Be come into possession of all the Blocker/Dreadnort passwords anyhow? Lord Fears' security leaks like a sieve! XD

              But to be honest that's probably what makes him a bad ass anyway. Giving everyone the means to beat him and his forces and still watch as they all blunder, usually either because of their own mishaps, oveesights or their own incompetence

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                Canadanne
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                One must wonder how in the heck the Powers That Be come into possession of all the Blocker/Dreadnort passwords anyhow? Lord Fears' security leaks like a sieve! XD

                For real! My pet theory is that Sly Hands pays for his drinks in the Crazed Heifer with secret passwords.

                But to be honest that's probably what makes him a bad ass anyway. Giving everyone the means to beat him and his forces and still watch as they all blunder, usually either because of their own mishaps, oveesights or their own incompetence

                LOL, so true.

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                  Fidjit
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                  Haha I do love Knightmare but I do love to have a nitpick when the time comes.

                  Lord Fear is a force to be reckoned with, no two ways, but do you reckon he ever bothers to use the karzy or the shower when there is always a chance that some kid is about to pick up a spyglass XD The Sewers of Goth had to come from somewhere after all.

                  But I did enjoy watching Sumayya and her troupe. They were a good laugh to have around This season was a definitive improvement of the last one. And this quest and others show it well Season 5 is penultimatly my least favourite

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                    asrl07
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                    One must wonder how in the heck the Powers That Be come into possession of all the Blocker/Dreadnort passwords anyhow? Lord Fears' security leaks like a sieve! XD

                    Through spyglasses. Several times teams have obtained blocker passwords and causeway paths through spying on Lord Fear at the moment he has to tell one of his henchmen how to get past such an obstruction. There seem to be a lot of spyglasses lying about in the levels, so not beyond the bounds of possibility one or two of the powers that be characters have taken a peak.

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                      Morghanna
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                      Team 2 made competent progress. They gained a sub-quest to release Sidriss, who was "frozen" by Lord Fear.

                      First appearance in this series of Elita. Yay! She woz on fine form.

                      They made a very efficient crossing of the causeway, using Elita's clue.

                      Bought a summoning spell for Hordriss from Ah-Wok.

                      Hilarious that they thought the summoning spell was Marrefact, not Malefact, altho in fairness they sorted it out very quickly.

                      Surely if they had actually watched S3, 4 or 5, they really should have known that Hordriss was summoned as Malefact....

                      Gained the blocker password from Hordriss in thanks.

                      Talked Smirky into a free ride to level 2 before the bell sounded.

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                        MorghannaM
                        Morghanna
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                        Lord Fears' security leaks like a sieve! XD

                        As so many teams obligingly fell off the causeways, it hardly mattered that his security was awful.

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                          Drassil
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                          Hordriss appears

                          By my reckoning, Sumayya was the fifteenth dungeoneer to encounter Hordriss. I wonder if she ever watched Fifteen to One.

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