Temporal Discussion, A KM podcast
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Yay, great to have the podcast back!
FYI, the Hockering Wood information came directly from the Series 4 location cameraman Leigh Grey, who gave me these filming dates from his 1990 diary:
"11/6/90 Castle Acre and Castle Rising
12/6 Orford Castle
13/6 Leeds Castle Maidstone
14/6 Hockering Woods near East Dereham and Oxburgh Hall
15/6 Framlingham Castle Suffolk"
I would say that counts as official confirmation - can't get much more reliable than the guy who actually captured the footage!
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After listening to the S4 E11 podcast, Jake is correct in his recollection that the Crazed Heifer exterior is somewhere in Suffolk - I'm not entirely certain if it's an airbrushed photograph or a painting, but it perfectly matches the 14th century Little Hall in Lavenham, which was originally a house and is now a museum.
https://suffolkmuseums.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/Lavenham-Little-Hall-2.jpg
https://www.shutterstock.com/image-photo/lavenham-suffolk-uk-august-4-600w-1187905033.jpg
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The face shown in the end credits of S4 E12 is also real, as described here by Ross:
I'm also now wondering where the end credits of Series 4 episode 12 were filmed? It looks like some sort of face carved out of stone or wood, with water running down one side. Weird. Any ideas?
Canadanne - Jake and I can solve that mystery for you. The stone face is taken from Leeds Castle. There is a maze and in the middle of the maze is an underground grotto, where you can find that face. Here is a photo I took on our visit to the castle yesterday:
You can see my photograph of it at the bottom of this page:
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I am not Jake but it's Framlingham Castle again over the end credits of S4 E15! I recreated those shots to the best of my ability without actually being in a boat on the lake, near the bottom here: http://www.canadanne.co.uk/kmlocations/framlingham.html
(If you haven't seen them before, you may also enjoy seeing the Eyeshield room as a bustling gift shop, lol.)
Great to hear from Michael Cule in this episode! I don't think I've ever heard him speak about Knightmare before. Hilarious that he's just as baffled about Mistress Goody's purpose as we all are!
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I am Jake, and I bought a postcard in that bustling gift shop in February this year. The lake/moat was completely overflowing because of all the recent rain.
I'm pleased to be reminded that my own efforts with photographing Knightmare locations inspired your own. I've actually seen a ton more of them since finishing The Eye Shield and found myself taking photos excitedly before thinking, 'TES is over, I don't do this anymore!" but it's always fun to be at a Knightmare location anyway!
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I am Jake, and I bought a postcard in that bustling gift shop in February this year. The lake/moat was completely overflowing because of all the recent rain.
I was worried about the treacherous boggy ground you mentioned in TES, but thankfully it was all dry when I went!
(Fun bit of trivia for anyone who doesn't know - Ed Sheeran grew up in Framlingham and this location inspired his song 'Castle On The Hill'.)
I'm pleased to be reminded that my own efforts with photographing Knightmare locations inspired your own. I've actually seen a ton more of them since finishing The Eye Shield and found myself taking photos excitedly before thinking, 'TES is over, I don't do this anymore!" but it's always fun to be at a Knightmare location anyway!
It is absolutely your fault I went down that particular rabbit hole. I really enjoy seeing everyone's KM location photos, as well as visiting whichever ones I can (still have a few on my "maybe one day" list). Has anyone made it to any of the Spanish castles yet??
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Great to hear from Michael Cule in this episode! I don't think I've ever heard him speak about Knightmare before.
Don't forget his appearance in James's Knightmare: 25th Anniversary documentary, in which you and I are credited alongside his cat!
Framlingham's MP is Dan Poulter, who was in the news recently after defecting to Labour. His Twitter account has the castle as a header photo.
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Great to hear from Michael Cule in this episode! I don't think I've ever heard him speak about Knightmare before.
Don't forget his appearance in James's Knightmare: 25th Anniversary documentary, in which you and I are credited alongside his cat!
OMG yes, I totally had forgotten he was in that - thanks for reminding me! I guess I was only thinking about podcasts and Paul Flannery's Twitch interviews, etc.
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I have to thank Temporal Discussion for playing a big part in reigniting my passion for Knightmare over the past couple of years, since I relocated from Hertfordshire to Suffolk. The in-depth nature of the podcast shows how deep-set Knightmare has become in many of its fans, both as a TV show and as an immersive world, and despite the odd stomach-churning piece of misinformation (and you can be sure I've done everthing I can stop any of the ones I've been responsbile for myself making it into the final cut!) the podcast content shows such fundamental enthusiasm and enduring love for Knightmare that it always resonates in the most important ways.
One thing I have particularly taken away from the Series 4 episodes is a growing appreciation for Martin H's term "proto-pooka" for the forest hauntings. While I have presented what I believe to be conclusive evidence that these hauntings are and always were intended to be pookas (listen to the podcast for Episode 8 to hear me doing this) I have come to realise that while the creatures were certainly being named as pookas prior to their Series 6 redesign (at least they were in the board game!) it's probably true that no one was really using the term behind the scenes during Series 4, otherwise it would have made it into the actual show at some point. Therefore, "proto-pooka" seems the most accurate overall term to me and I'll be using it from now on.
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I have to thank Temporal Discussion for playing a big part in reigniting my passion for Knightmare over the past couple of years, since I relocated from Hertfordshire to Suffolk. The in-depth nature of the podcast shows how deep-set Knightmare has become in many of its fans, both as a TV show and as an immersive world, and despite the odd stomach-churning piece of misinformation (and you can be sure I've done everthing I can stop any of the ones I've been responsbile for myself making it into the final cut!) the podcast content shows such fundamental enthusiasm and enduring love for Knightmare that it always resonates in the most important ways.
One thing I have particularly taken away from the Series 4 episodes is a growing appreciation for Martin H's term "proto-pooka" for the forest hauntings. While I have presented what I believe to be conclusive evidence that these hauntings are and always were intended to be pookas (listen to the podcast for Episode 8 to hear me doing this) I have come to realise that while the creatures were certainly being named as pookas prior to their Series 6 redesign (at least they were in the board game!) it's probably true that no one was really using the term behind the scenes during Series 4, otherwise it would have made it into the actual show at some point. Therefore, "proto-pooka" seems the most accurate overall term to me and I'll be using it from now on.
I too am grateful for the podcast - it's great to have some semi-regular new content to look forward to, as we once looked forward to TES - and I'm glad that your passion for the show has returned!
I think my favourite takeaway from this series is that Treguard & Pickle are now "Trickle".
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The "generic-looking ruined castle chamber" where they encounter Skarkill in S5 ep 3 is Carew Castle in Pembrokeshire: http://www.canadanne.co.uk/kmlocations/carew.html
All of the show's indoor locations have been identified now, so feel free to ask if you want to know where any scenes were filmed!
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Thanks to you, Annie, I've been able to name-drop several Welsh castles on Episodes 4, 5 and 6 (we recorded Episode 6 today) including Carew Castle, and I've given you shout-outs on all three of those episodes because it's purely due to your efforts that I've been able to start getting to grips with the Welsh locations, none of which I have ever visited, unlike the English ones.
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Thanks to you, Annie, I've been able to name-drop several Welsh castles on Episodes 4, 5 and 6 (we recorded Episode 6 today) including Carew Castle, and I've given you shout-outs on all three of those episodes because it's purely due to your efforts that I've been able to start getting to grips with the Welsh locations, none of which I have ever visited, unlike the English ones.
Oh cool, and thanks in advance for the shout-outs! The Welsh castles are well worth visiting if you get the chance - I especially enjoyed Kidwelly (which looks tiny but has a surprising amount to explore), Castell Coch (ditto) and Caerphilly (which is enormous). Would love to get to Carreg Cennen one day but there's no public transport anywhere near it - I might need a dragon ride!
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Your website has been a valuable research tool! We probably would've been a bit stumped in several situations without it
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Great to hear Paul McIntosh on the podcast again - he always comes out with some one-liners that make me laugh out loud!
Re: the Spanish castles, it was Knightmare's own crew that went over and filmed them, as reported in The Quest (https://www.knightmare.com/fanzone/magazines/the-quest/quest-2.3-p2.html), so not an exchange of images from El Rescate del Talismán (though it's entirely possible that they recommended some locations). I haven't seen much of the third series of ERDT yet, so not sure if the Spanish castles ever made it into that version.
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I thought I'd read that somewhere but I couldn't remember where! You'll get a shout-out on Episode 8 (which I'm currently editing) for this.
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I'm a bit behind but just caught up with the S5 E7 ep (aw, you guys <3). I'm enjoying the classic theme song singalongs, haha.
Regarding "Is this the first indication that there's someone else in the castle", the only others I can suggest are Treguard's humorous remark about "having a few problems lately with the cleaners" in the second ep of Series 1, and Motley mentioned a cook in S3 E13? (Plus Treguard complains that "someone's" let the fire burn low at the start of Series 5, which makes it sound like there are multiple people who should be keeping an eye on it.)
I've never noticed that blooper with Julius thinking they're indoors!
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I'm glad you're enjoying the singalongs. I'm definitely hoping to do more in the future, but I'm also wary of doing it too much. I snuck a bit into Episode 8 whilst editing, so now I think I really must try to control myself for a while! I'm not sure if Martin enjoys it as much as I do, but I hope he does.
As for Treguard's possibly extensive staff, I think Martin was thinking of other people having been mentioned as being in Knightmare Castle itself, rather than in the Dungeon like the cook and the cleaners. (Of course Treguard probably pays these same people to cook and clean in the castle too, unless he does it all himself!) He was certainly expecting some of his "attendants" to take care of that fire, though, so I guess there must be quite a few of them hanging around Knightmare Castle after all. Maybe some of them are even more qualified than Pickle to wet-nurse King Arthur!
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