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    TheOldenDays
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    I have to thank Temporal Discussion for playing a big part in reigniting my passion for Knightmare over the past couple of years, since I relocated from Hertfordshire to Suffolk. The in-depth nature of the podcast shows how deep-set Knightmare has become in many of its fans, both as a TV show and as an immersive world, and despite the odd stomach-churning piece of misinformation (and you can be sure I've done everthing I can stop any of the ones I've been responsbile for myself making it into the final cut!) the podcast content shows such fundamental enthusiasm and enduring love for Knightmare that it always resonates in the most important ways.

    One thing I have particularly taken away from the Series 4 episodes is a growing appreciation for Martin H's term "proto-pooka" for the forest hauntings. While I have presented what I believe to be conclusive evidence that these hauntings are and always were intended to be pookas (listen to the podcast for Episode 8 to hear me doing this) I have come to realise that while the creatures were certainly being named as pookas prior to their Series 6 redesign (at least they were in the board game!) it's probably true that no one was really using the term behind the scenes during Series 4, otherwise it would have made it into the actual show at some point. Therefore, "proto-pooka" seems the most accurate overall term to me and I'll be using it from now on.

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      Canadanne
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      I have to thank Temporal Discussion for playing a big part in reigniting my passion for Knightmare over the past couple of years, since I relocated from Hertfordshire to Suffolk. The in-depth nature of the podcast shows how deep-set Knightmare has become in many of its fans, both as a TV show and as an immersive world, and despite the odd stomach-churning piece of misinformation (and you can be sure I've done everthing I can stop any of the ones I've been responsbile for myself making it into the final cut!) the podcast content shows such fundamental enthusiasm and enduring love for Knightmare that it always resonates in the most important ways.

      One thing I have particularly taken away from the Series 4 episodes is a growing appreciation for Martin H's term "proto-pooka" for the forest hauntings. While I have presented what I believe to be conclusive evidence that these hauntings are and always were intended to be pookas (listen to the podcast for Episode 8 to hear me doing this) I have come to realise that while the creatures were certainly being named as pookas prior to their Series 6 redesign (at least they were in the board game!) it's probably true that no one was really using the term behind the scenes during Series 4, otherwise it would have made it into the actual show at some point. Therefore, "proto-pooka" seems the most accurate overall term to me and I'll be using it from now on.

      I too am grateful for the podcast - it's great to have some semi-regular new content to look forward to, as we once looked forward to TES - and I'm glad that your passion for the show has returned!

      I think my favourite takeaway from this series is that Treguard & Pickle are now "Trickle".

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        Canadanne
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        The "generic-looking ruined castle chamber" where they encounter Skarkill in S5 ep 3 is Carew Castle in Pembrokeshire: http://www.canadanne.co.uk/kmlocations/carew.html

        All of the show's indoor locations have been identified now, so feel free to ask if you want to know where any scenes were filmed!

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          TheOldenDays
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          Thanks to you, Annie, I've been able to name-drop several Welsh castles on Episodes 4, 5 and 6 (we recorded Episode 6 today) including Carew Castle, and I've given you shout-outs on all three of those episodes because it's purely due to your efforts that I've been able to start getting to grips with the Welsh locations, none of which I have ever visited, unlike the English ones.

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            Thanks to you, Annie, I've been able to name-drop several Welsh castles on Episodes 4, 5 and 6 (we recorded Episode 6 today) including Carew Castle, and I've given you shout-outs on all three of those episodes because it's purely due to your efforts that I've been able to start getting to grips with the Welsh locations, none of which I have ever visited, unlike the English ones.

            Oh cool, and thanks in advance for the shout-outs! The Welsh castles are well worth visiting if you get the chance - I especially enjoyed Kidwelly (which looks tiny but has a surprising amount to explore), Castell Coch (ditto) and Caerphilly (which is enormous). Would love to get to Carreg Cennen one day but there's no public transport anywhere near it - I might need a dragon ride!

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              Your website has been a valuable research tool! We probably would've been a bit stumped in several situations without it

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                Canadanne
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                Great to hear Paul McIntosh on the podcast again - he always comes out with some one-liners that make me laugh out loud!

                Re: the Spanish castles, it was Knightmare's own crew that went over and filmed them, as reported in The Quest (https://www.knightmare.com/fanzone/magazines/the-quest/quest-2.3-p2.html), so not an exchange of images from El Rescate del Talismán (though it's entirely possible that they recommended some locations). I haven't seen much of the third series of ERDT yet, so not sure if the Spanish castles ever made it into that version.

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                  I thought I'd read that somewhere but I couldn't remember where! You'll get a shout-out on Episode 8 (which I'm currently editing) for this.

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                    Canadanne
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                    I'm a bit behind but just caught up with the S5 E7 ep (aw, you guys <3). I'm enjoying the classic theme song singalongs, haha.

                    Regarding "Is this the first indication that there's someone else in the castle", the only others I can suggest are Treguard's humorous remark about "having a few problems lately with the cleaners" in the second ep of Series 1, and Motley mentioned a cook in S3 E13? (Plus Treguard complains that "someone's" let the fire burn low at the start of Series 5, which makes it sound like there are multiple people who should be keeping an eye on it.)

                    I've never noticed that blooper with Julius thinking they're indoors!

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                      I'm glad you're enjoying the singalongs. I'm definitely hoping to do more in the future, but I'm also wary of doing it too much. I snuck a bit into Episode 8 whilst editing, so now I think I really must try to control myself for a while! I'm not sure if Martin enjoys it as much as I do, but I hope he does.

                      As for Treguard's possibly extensive staff, I think Martin was thinking of other people having been mentioned as being in Knightmare Castle itself, rather than in the Dungeon like the cook and the cleaners. (Of course Treguard probably pays these same people to cook and clean in the castle too, unless he does it all himself!) He was certainly expecting some of his "attendants" to take care of that fire, though, so I guess there must be quite a few of them hanging around Knightmare Castle after all. Maybe some of them are even more qualified than Pickle to wet-nurse King Arthur!

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                        Canadanne
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                        As for Treguard's possibly extensive staff, I think Martin was thinking of other people having been mentioned as being in Knightmare Castle itself, rather than in the Dungeon like the cook and the cleaners. (Of course Treguard probably pays these same people to cook and clean in the castle too, unless he does it all himself!) He was certainly expecting some of his "attendants" to take care of that fire, though, so I guess there must be quite a few of them hanging around Knightmare Castle after all. Maybe some of them are even more qualified than Pickle to wet-nurse King Arthur!

                        Treguard should count himself lucky. I've been watching the Spanish version lately and the poor lonely king even has to mend his own clothes, having no servants to take care of him since the Lord of Evil took over his castle!

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                          I haven't seen much of the third series of ERDT yet, so not sure if the Spanish castles ever made it into that version.

                          And now that I've watched the Series 3 episodes, yes they did! (In fact they used a slightly wider shot from Coca Castle that didn't appear in Knightmare.)

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                            Ah, hooray! I'll be sure to slip that bit of news into an upcoming episode.

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                              Canadanne
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                              I had no idea they filmed a TimeBusters episode on the Pride of Bilbao. I did the whale-watching mini-cruise in 2007 and 2008, but with a much less entertaining story than Martin's!!

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                                Though undoubtedly more plausible. (Not that I don't believe it, but I do find it implausible!)

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                                  Ah, hooray! I'll be sure to slip that bit of news into an upcoming episode.

                                  It's gone in at the very start of Episode 10!

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                                    In advance of our chat with team 5 adviser Rea Pearson (who insists that the whole box thing was a big misunderstanding) I am pleased to be able to show off some scans of her correspondence with the boys of team 4. Until now we've only ever seen Rea's letter to John, but now we have his reply!

                                    https://knightmarepod.co.uk/some-interesting-scans-courtesy-of-rea-pearson

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                                      "Crap"?! I'm not listening to your podcast any more. 😛 (Just kidding, grumpily.)

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                                        Ah, hooray! I'll be sure to slip that bit of news into an upcoming episode.

                                        It's gone in at the very start of Episode 10!

                                        You know, I've now become acutely aware that I've said for this news update (coming to Patreon on Friday) "some of the same shots and some different shots" but all the evidence I can find myself is of ONE different shot and ONE shot the same as on our Knightmare, both from the same Spanish castle. Is this actually the full extent of the Spanish locations on Spanish Knightmare?

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                                          You know, I've now become acutely aware that I've said for this news update (coming to Patreon on Friday) "some of the same shots and some different shots" but all the evidence I can find myself is of ONE different shot and ONE shot the same as on our Knightmare, both from the same Spanish castle. Is this actually the full extent of the Spanish locations on Spanish Knightmare?

                                          I don't know as there are only two episodes of that series available so far (and only one of them happens to feature a Spanish castle), but I imagine they will have used more!

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