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  • MystaraM
    MystaraM
    Mystara
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    Doubtless that's just AI recognising that the players "always" lose

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      Drassil
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      Out of curiousity, I tried giving an AI image generator some Knightmare-related image instructions.

      In particular, I asked for images of Treguard skiing.

      I like the idea of Treguard deciding to take a holiday between Series 5 and 6 after Aesandre froze the Greater Dungeon and literally put Lord Fear on ice. Perhaps that's why Pickle was away from the castle when S6 started.

      I thought I'd use the AI to find out once and for all what the "BUT" spell would have done. It turns out they were screwed either way, as both spells would have taken too long to cast.

      I don't think anyone's ever speculated before about what might have happened if BUT had been the wrong spell to cast first, but this makes the scenario easier to imagine.

      Last year, computer scientist Dr. Thomas Lancaster trained an AI on David Rowe's Knightmare artwork and got it to generate 100 rooms.

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      • MystaraM
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        Ah, I had forgotten about that. I wonder what David thinks of them.

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          Canadanne
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          Last year, computer scientist Dr. Thomas Lancaster trained an AI on David Rowe's Knightmare artwork and got it to generate 100 rooms.

          That snake room (#7) looks like a scene from Planet Earth II - good luck navigating that!!

          #37 is more like the set of Bullseye than Knightmare.

          I like the gargoyle in #39.

          #45 is giving me Oriental Nightfish vibes.

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            AriadnesLayer
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            Out of curiousity, I tried giving an AI image generator some Knightmare-related image instructions.

            In particular, I asked for images of Treguard skiing. Here's what it came up with

            treguard_skiing.jpg

            I think it did surprisingly well!

            It's surprisingly good! What AI did you use?

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            • MystaraM
              MystaraM
              Mystara
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              I have to admit I can't recall, sorry

              One of the common ones.

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                Canadanne
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                Ever wondered what happened after the final scene of Series 8?

                ***"So you never give up, ever?" asked Majida.

                "Well, I will if he will," replied Treguard. "Shall we find out?" Holding up a spyglass, he called out to the enemy: "Lord Fear! Lord Fear! Are you ready to surrender?"

                "What?" snarled the furious Technosorcerer, staring back at them from his high tower at Marblehead. "Me? Surrender? You must be absolutely out of your tiny MIIIIIND!!!"**

                "I have a great surprise for you," replied Treguard, as he began to lob fire balls at the Technosorcerer's body from his usual distance.

                "SHUT UP!" screamed the Technosorcerer. "YOU GOVERNMENT MOLDED SCUM!!!"

                From his tower, he watched with horror as Treguard - a few years previously a thorn in his side, a just-about-managed annoyance, was growing into a self-assured and masterly martial artist - now began to systematically dismantle the towers and towers of sorcery that protected Marblehead. More fireballs flew from his tower. "You coward!" he shouted, and gave the Treguard a call of "Now, you miserable fool, YOU SHALL NEVER KNOW THE SECRET OF MY POWER UNTIL I LEAVE THIS FRIGGING TOWN!!!"*

                I mean, it would be quite a surprise for Treguard to be hurling fireballs at Lord Fear instead of the other way round. Still, it fits quite well after a series that was full of them!

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                  The first image does actually look rather a lot like Hugo!

                  I was also impressed at how "right" some of the AI story was, both to the show and to the books.

                  The tower, the "many dangers" and, for those that have read the books, Treguard was a soldier, albeit a Crusading mercenary in charge of a band of ne'er do wells, but still...

                  The Boy turned out alright in the end!!

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                    Canadanne
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                    This is either an alternate universe in which Treguard decides the whole idea of Knightmare will never work, or it's a prequel set a few years before the first episode. I like how it seems to have captured the tone pretty well!

                    ***"Enter, stranger!" called Treguard. A boy materialised in the doorway. "Who challenges my dungeon?"

                    "David Campbell," replied the boy.

                    "You have some small previous experience of dungeoneering, I hope?"

                    "Yes, I have."

                    "Very well. And what reward do you seek here?"

                    "I seek knighthood," said David.

                    "That will not be possible," said Treguard. "Only the first step to knighthood can be taken here. Squiredom is the reward for surviving the dungeon, for silver precedes gold, and the silver spurs of a squire will be yours, if you survive."**

                    "How long must I be squired before I become a knight?" asked David.

                    "As long as it takes," said Treguard.

                    "Well, I'm ready to go down now," said David. "I'm not afraid."

                    Treguard stared at him in surprise. "Well, that's a pity," he said.

                    "Why is it a pity?" said David.

                    "Because the rules of the dungeon are very strict," said Treguard. "I don't allow any untrained adventurers down here. No amateur can possibly survive the dungeon without training. Therefore, I cannot accept you."

                    "Why not?" demanded David.

                    Treguard shrugged. "There are too many risks," he explained. "If I allow you in, how will I know that you are able to cope? There are monsters down there, you know. Even if you come out again, there is the risk that you could die before you could return, and then there would be no one to train your friends. No, you must have been trained to survive the dungeon, and you have not been."

                    "I'm willing to try," said David.

                    "Then you will fail," said Treguard. "Come back when you are older."

                    "I am older!" said David angrily. "I'm eight!"

                    "Yes," said Treguard. "That's very old, but it is not old enough. Good-bye, David Campbell. We may meet again."*

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                      Drassil
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                      Here's the result of me asking Copilot (a.k.a. Image Creator, powered by DALL E 3) to 'Create a photorealistic picture of Pat Sharp as he looked in 1989, standing next to Hugo Myatt as he looked in 1989. In the background is a cross between a medieval castle and the Fun House from the UK gameshow Fun House.'

                      Pat Sharp and Treguard by Copilot.jpg

                      Pat Sharp and Treguard by Copilot.jpg

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                        Malefact
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                        Some old favourites 'reimagined', courtesy of ChatGPT 4.

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                          Malefact
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                          Continued...

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                            Malefact
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                            Continued again...

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                              Malefact
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                              Some more.

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                              The kind of dungeon I want to see!

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                                Malefact
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                                Finally, to mix things up a bit...

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