KNIGHTMARE RETURNS TO CITV
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I think I remember Grotbags - wasn't she the green witch with green hair who used to shriek? She frightened the HECK out of me!
Puddle Lane was a programme and series of books. It featured a family of cats - Timothy Catchamouse and his sister Tessa - and his mother Pegs. They lived in a nest and used to climb the magicians tower looking for milk and end up falling through the window onto the magician and waking him up, and ending up flying or something. It was cool.
On perhaps a more serious note I don't think accusations of lying should be thrown about so quickly, Pooka. Do you object to seeing clips or an episode of Knightmare?
PS Kieran says he saw Grotbags live at the Grand Theate. His cats are also called Timmy and Tessa
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WOAH! HANG ON A MINUTE!!
At the start of last week nothing was happening at all!
Now, we have series 3 on Challenge at Xmax, clips/episodes in January on CITV and, potentially, an entirely new series!!!!!!!!!
It's like waiting for a friggin' bus!!!!
Which begs the question: DO THEY ALL KNOW SOMETHING WE DON'T? :-X
In any case, once today's viewing audience see an episode of Km, a new army of fans could be won over.
I RECKON CHALLENGE AND CITV ARE TESTING THE WATER.
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btw, Grotbags had her own series in 1991 I think. I remember 'cos on Friday's it was 'Victor and Hugo' followed by Knightmare and on Wednesday's (?) it was Grotbags. It was funny!
Puddle Lane, OMG, I haven't seen that one in maybe 15 years!
I'm gonna send CITV an email asking them to show lots of Km episodes (either on ITV or ITV2) and them I'm gonna get loads of top-quality videos ready for the big event. And I'm not talking about Xmas or New Year's Eve, either!
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This new format worries in a way. Its a really good concept but it seems it could take the Dungeoneers Destiny(TM) out of their own hands - what happens if you get a particularly malicious audience and it decides to put as many traps in the dungeoneers path as possible?
However, the main important thing is that knightmare will be back
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I have been giving it a lot of thought. The helmet was introduced originally through necessity, as opposed to design, since the dungeoneer couldn't see the room anyway.
For the most part, getting a dungeoneer in and out of a room was simply a matter of course. What they did in the room was more important - clue rooms, for example.
The occasions when blindness became potentially lethal was in timing exercises, causeways, bomb rooms, any room with gaps in the floor, and the Corridor of Blades.
What's stopping them from blinding the dungeoneer for just those types of room?
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Sorry to go off on this tangent and please tell me to get specifically back to knightmare if it is a problem (I think this was an issue before about 18 months ago), but whilst we're on the subject of 20 years of CITV, surely there are a couple of other classic gems which haven't yet been mentioned.
Dogtanian
Eye of the Storm
Spatz
Mike and Angelo (original series)
Legend of Treasure Island
Rainbow (of course)
Chish & Fips (or something like that)
T-bag (already mentioned but not really been discussed)
Virtually Impossible (made by the same ppl as Knightmare)
and probably loads others which my mind typically won't think of.
Also, does anyone remember the 40 years of Childrens TV they celebrated in 1995 (approx). Knightmare, T-bag, grotbags etc weren't featured in that upsettingly. But it did have a really annoying presenter - Malcom somebody and a family. mum, gossipy daughter, gran, son, and dad with his tele almanac thing. I've gone on long enough so I'll shut up and post now. Please post back.
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I loved The Legends Of Treasure Island too - and Dogtanian!
What about Count Duckula and Dangermouse too (good old David Jason, he did both their voices!) - I tell ya, they don't make cartoons like that anymore!
More Knightmare - YES!! I just hope if they're going to repeat the entire series, they put it on ITV1 - I don't have digital.
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Oh yeah I love those! I have them on a cult kids DVD!! What about Raggy Dolls? I am going through a bit of a Neil Innes phase atm and I downloaded the theme! I love Sad Sack!! ;D I would love to see the original series of Woof! again as well!
I wish they would do their retro kids thing on terrestrial tho, us poor lot without Sky are so neglected. Humph! But I guess I can settle for the one retro day I guess, that has to be the best news I have heard from CITV in a while!!
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I'd love to see Woof! again, hopefully the series' before it became impossible to understand who was the actual dog. Did they ever explain why it chnaged? And why one was a he and SUDDENLY was a she?
Duckula and Dangermouse! Voices by David Jason of course, and Penfold being voiced by the talented late Terry Scott.
As for KM on CITV, I will predict that they will show....Episode 1 of series 1! (meaning I think they will only show one ep.)
We could all vote
What does everyone else think they will show? ("nothing" is of course an answer! sadly)
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Series 1 of Woof! on video:
I'm currently in contact with someone who worked on Woof!, and have to ring Carlton (next week) in order to get permission for my coming Woof! website (not a cold call; they already know about it; it should be fine). I've got lots of interesting stuff for the site, so expect something early next year
As for the dogs, it was Eric between Series 1-5, Rex between series 6-8, and the girl for Series 9, which I've never actually seen. I'm concentrating on the early series at the moment, but expect that to be covered eventually.
I'll put a lot of work on the site over Christmas, and try and get it up soon.
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I think it's fantastic to see that Knightmare may about to re-appear. Repeats are always welcome, but a brand new series is something that has looked less and less likely despite a lot of hoping and dreaming over the past 8+ years. The format was never going to be the way it used to be - as was said earlier, the helmet etc were born out of necessity. If some of the old team are involved, it's bound to keep some of the elements that made it great in the first place!
Can I also say how brilliant it is to have this site available and updated so regularly so we can keep up with any news. Cheers!
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In any case, once today's viewing audience see an episode of Km, a new army of fans could be won over.
Yes, it is quite fortunate that it's being repeated at the same time there's a possible new series in the pipeline. Hopefully it'll mean more people will be adding their voices to the campaign to bring KM back to our screens. When the KM reformat is done, I guess Televirtual could do with some people power in their quest to get someone to show it. Hopefully if and when the time comes there'll be a good number of people with pens at the ready and the TV companies' addresses at hand.
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This new format worries in a way. Its a really good concept but it seems it could take the Dungeoneers Destiny(TM) out of their own hands - what happens if you get a particularly malicious audience and it decides to put as many traps in the dungeoneers path as possible?
I guess the audience at any one time would be pretty similar to that of other weeks, so it wouldn't be too much of a problem. And I guess there would just be a choice of obstacles to put before the dungeoneer (I'm a slow convert to this "avatar" word) so they wouldn't be able to give them loads of obstacles one week and very few the next. I also guess that at least some of what they'd face will be fixed (i.e., not up for a vote), so the production team can level out any inconsistencies.
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For the most part, getting a dungeoneer in and out of a room was simply a matter of course. What they did in the room was more important - clue rooms, for example.
The occasions when blindness became potentially lethal was in timing exercises, causeways, bomb rooms, any room with gaps in the floor, and the Corridor of Blades.
What's stopping them from blinding the dungeoneer for just those types of room?
Temporary blindness/having to rely on the advisor is certainly a possibility. Otherwise at least some of these puzzles could remain a challenge simply by speeding them up. A different type of challenge, admittedly, but a challenge nonetheless.
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One thing to bear in mind is that fri 3rd Jan falls out at the end of the 2 week xmas/new year schedule. Citv doesn't usually start broadcasting again (in its afternoon time slot) until the week after. Therefore anything they do on Jan 3rd would be put in specially and this could mean a longer/shorter slot for the special. Alternatively, they could dedicate an entire week to the celebrations (the following week) as they did with the 40 years of Childrens TV back in the mid nineties. - Maybe this is too much to hope for.
Also, thought of some more programs
Funhouse
Just Us
Wilderness Edge (Not a particular fave)
3,7,11 (not a particular fave either)
Press gang (first episode I saw turned out to be the last one they made)
Allsorts
Bad Influence
Dreamstone.
The list could (and probably will) go on....
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And a point about the Knightmare repeat itself.... I know it's pretty obvious, but I hope they choose to put on a first in the series, and therefore introduce new viewers at a point where there have been many changes (from previous season) anyway, just as much of that stuff was new to us the first time we saw it.
I don't think series one, though. I think viewers should see it when it is a bit more developed.
Series 5 I would say, or series 3 if you think it's better in the earlier days.
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