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Level 3, this season.

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    GrimaldineGrimwold
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    but malice IS gundrada right?

    Same actress, yep.

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      Here's a plausable explanation.

      Malice and Mogdred are both pretty powerful 'people?' who are both more "evil" than "good" (not that sides are that clear cut untill S5) and are both hungry for power.

      As tends to happen with 'Baddies' like this they probably both fight amongst themselves for leadership(for want of a better word) of Level 3. Therefore we will sometimes see malice in charge and sometimes Mogdred.

      In reality its probably to increase the variation of each quest (with their limited room graphics etc...) but as far as storyline goes who likes my wee take on it?

      Fits in well with malice's appearance in level 1 of the succeding quest to that which bested her and got the crown(removed from power for her failure!)

      Noticed the Gundrada/Malice thing myself. Must say its great acting on Samantha Perkins's part, being able to act as a bloodthirsty, selfish, Arrogant warrior woman and then changing to gundrada's character later/Earlier in the quest.

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        Gerz
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        I agree steve, if you noticed Malice in Level 1 said that she  needed that item due to fallen out with someone, or something along thoses lines, which could suggest that her and Mogdred had a fight and that she wanted revenge upon Mogdred and prehaps  the dungeonere was the best way for her to do it (She could have been still licking her wounds so to speak)

        Or maybe it was a trap set by her?

        Acording to the dictionary one of'But's meaning is Without it happening, so maybe it would have stopped the sword from appearing? I don't know though

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          GrimaldineGrimwold
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          if you noticed Malice in Level 1 said that she  needed that item due to fallen out with someone, or something along thoses lines, which could suggest that her and Mogdred had a fight and that she wanted revenge upon Mogdred and prehaps  the dungeonere was the best way for her to do it (She could have been still licking her wounds so to speak)

          That's certainly plausible. I'd guess the one person she might be afraid of would be Mogdred, so acting through a dungeoneer rather than openly defying him would make sense. It's certainly possible she had ambitions to rival Mogdred in the way Aesandre did with Lord Fear in the following season.

          Or perhaps it was an ethical issue again (especially in the case where she was disguised). You make a pact with her early on, but later learn quite how evil she is. Do you keep the bargain? If you've agreed to get her that "simple leather bound book", and you learn it's a powerful magical tome with which she can turn Merlin into a pickled walnut and destroy Treguard's sacred beard, do you keep your side of the deal and give it to her, or refuse on moral grounds?

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            Purgatory
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            what that sure as hell makes much more sence lol

            and it works pretty well to.

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              Steve
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              What about the whole power struggle for level 3 explanation, i think that works aswell

              If only more dungeoneers made it to level 3 (instead of falling off in the block and tackle) we might have an idea about this

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                Pickle123
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                i think from some of the script the power struggle theory appeals to me the most. it's basicly what i was thinking from when she said she'd fallen out with someone...etc

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                  MPK
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                  OK, now this is gonna confuse you lot!

                  If there is indeed a power struggle as previously said, and by the team getting the crown which put Malice back to level 1 - then what about Mogdread?

                  Mogdread has always been evil, and has never been part of the old "using dungeoneers for dirty deeds" trick, as he would probalbly do it himself! Instead, Hordriss is used, but is not really involved in the whole balance of power thing!

                  Also, as Malice is the only one to fail this season, how did Mogdread lose control, after he probalbly destroyed more dungeoneers?

                  There is only one answer to all these questions! Two evil guys are used to variate the game, who knows who decides who is used to defend the dungeon.

                  Maybe in the end it all comes down to both Malice and Mogdread, all in their dungeon on level 3, who decides by the only way possible- Rock, Paper, Scissors!

                  Also, on a weird note, how come all the baddies before Fear had M as an initial? Mogdread, Malice, Morghanna?

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                    well you know what these evil types are like- always stabbing each other back for power. I imagine malice(one of mogdred's minions), who constantly tries to overthow mogdred behind his back, finally succeded only to get beaten by a dungeoneer.

                    As a result most if not all of her supporters will have realigned with mogdred who quickly regains control and banishes malice to level 1 for her impudence.

                    This is of course how things might work in the storyline of Knightmare, realistically the 2 main enemies are probably used to increase the vareity of the quests as MPK said.

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                      Purgatory
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                      what about Morghanna then? we didn't see her during season 4, and i think she was at the end of season 3 a couple of time...  i always thought she was  mogdreds partner,

                      and then u have that other woman in season 5  😮

                      its just crazy stuff

                      i think we may need to out together a 'family tree' kinda thing..

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