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Series 3 - Episode 5

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  • PookaP
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    Pooka
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    Sorry, but if you go into the Dungeon expecting to answer riddles then riddles should be asked. Not straightforward questions. That just tests one's knowledge of trivia, whereas riddles test one's poetic sense and logical thinking.

    I always think Knightmare was unfair on less knowledgeable teams by asking them just question-questions. I mean, where's the riddle part of that? If I were to ask you what we would more commonly call a chilopod - would that be fair?

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      Malefact
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      Very true.

      It's a bit like on task sheets you get in classes and labs; they call them questions but they're not questions at all - they're instructions. It's a similar kind of principal.

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        GrimaldineGrimwold
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        That certainly makes sense. I suppose the production team often just ran out of riddles and went for questions of varying difficulties.

        It certainly makes more sense to test logical thinking than knowledge per se, as you say.

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          Pooka
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          Logical thinking? Never! Poetic sense all the way!

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            Kawaii_Catgirl
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            Leo's team seem to be having a rough time, don't you think? There were a great number of very close calls during their quest, and it was only by the skill of the advisors that Leo got away unscathed.

            Merlin's chamber provided a great hazard - at least one team has met their defeat in the vast pit, but Leo's dance of doom defied all the odds. Did you see how close his foot came to the edge? If it wasn't for the step taking effect, I think he would've toppled in. And stepping onto the new tile was no less perilous.

            Merlin's SWORD spell is generally offensive - though the team paid heed to his advice and used it to gain Hordriss's respect. He was acting quite malevolently throughout the quest, appearing as an evil portent on the wall in a Level 1 chamber, and threatening to dispose of them on the bridge. His hand was raised, and they'd even started up the "death" music, before they made the decision to Spellcast. But, Hordriss is a powerful mage himself, and could've quite easily removed the sword if he'd been hellbent on finishing the team off. Perhaps, as Treguard thought, respect was the key?

            Oh, and by the way, chaps - unless you were spellcasting SROWD, your dispell command wouldn't have had any effect, and Leo might've taken a blow to his Life Force - at that dangerous level, I'd surmise it'd have been fatal. You must've impressed the crew so that they let you off. Other teams weren't as lucky, with the crew insisting on perfect spelling.

            Since when has it become a rule that you can dispel other people's spells if you've once used the same spell yourself? I suspect Merlin would've gotten rid of it himself if they hadn't, but it was getting very close to him, and they had no choice. And again, the person who conjured the sword must've been a poor speller too - "Spellcasting: SROWD! Whoops, wrong spelling... Oh, it worked anyway. Good for me!"

            Of course, once they'd answered the Gargoyle's question incorrectly, they were dead. IMO, I think that the Gargoyle is the best wall monster I've seen - it has Golgarach's threats, and the Series 4 door monster's general gloom and dismay ("Oh dear..." etc).

            Well, there's my two cents.

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              RoxxAatherton
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              #29

              I've always wondered about the disspell thing, I dont get the order you have to say the letters in to disspell.

              I thought you just said them backwards, but having watched some shows it seems that's not the case, can anyone enlighten me?

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                Snowwiewolf
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                I would, but I'm ignorant about this....  ???

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                  ross
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                  Do you actually watch Knightmare to enjoy the quests or to spot what was wrong with the show.  

                  As for Leos dancing, I mean come on if he had died then simply because the step had not appeared after he had already performed the action it would have been the most unfair death in the history of knightmare.  Yes Scotts team suffered their death there, but that was because they had missed the first step in the level 1 clue room, and were forced to jump.  They were unlucky, but they did go off.  

                  You seem to have nitpicked on everything, and I hate people who do that.  

                  They did indeed use the sword spell to see off Hordriss but after he had left the sword was about to turn on them, and they dispelled very quickly.  

                  I didn't notice that they had spelled it wrong I am not saying they didn't just that I didn't notice it.  

                  I am not sure on the rules of dispelling if other people have used the same spell but again they had to use it, and I was impressed that they did it again fairly quickly.  I did think you had used the word backwards for example sword would be drows, tub fi I saw yllaer ni a dab doom I dluow llac uoy a reknaw, on ton yllaer I ma tsuj gnikoj, taht koot a gnol emit ot krow tuo woh ot lleps eht sdrow sdrawkcab, dna I redisnoc flesym ot eb etiuq a doog relleps, od uoy teg ym tniop?

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                    RoxxAatherton
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                    I get it loud and clear Ross! hehe

                    That's rather amazing, all the backwards spelling you did there, what's perhaps more amazing is that I managed to figure it out! hehe

                    Does anybody here know the proper way to dispell stuff then? I'm assuming Kawaii does, considering she knows the wrong way to do it! hehe

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                      Brangwen
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                      #33

                      Perhaps they just have to spell the word in any order but the right one to dispel it?

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                        MoanaLiza
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                        #34

                        Yes as annagrams of the word, i.e. sword (e.g. wrdos), which could also include the word backwards (drows).

                        Back to Leo's quest. I hate watching the end of it anytime and always hope to miss it when it's shown. That is one of my least favourite deaths, but I am not sure why though. I managed to miss that part today which I'm not too dissappointed about.

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                          Malefact
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                          My theory is that the team learnt the name of the spell that created a sword and dispelled it. Therefore, this was information that they could use later on - correctly guessing that other characters would use the same spell.

                          I would say that it was a practise that was soon after banned, though.

                          I really like the play-on-words involved. Spells are literally spelt out and dispelling is dis-spelling! Very clever.

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                            Thanatos
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                            I've seen a Series 1 clip in which Treguard first introduced spellcasting, and he said that to dispel the caster had to spell the letters "in the wrong order". In the later series either this rule changed to spelling it backwards or this simply became a trend that all dungeoneers followed.

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                              Melisandrinoff
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                              Aww, I thought it was such a shame when he fell off the cliff today, I liked him and his group - they really seemed to know what was going on, and knew the sets quite well too 😄 It does irritate me a bit when teams seem completely clueless as to what to do - I mean, surely they watch the show, right?! 😉 I miss Pickle though, I only caught a couple of ones with him in (this time around ;-)) - I hope challenge will reshow series 4 soon.  Anyway, I was hoping Leo would win 😄 because they did so well early on - and I didn't have a clue as to what the Gargoyle's answer was either, so I can sympathise with them 😉

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                                Malefact
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                                Hello there!

                                I agree with you about that. I still don't understand the riddle or the answer to this day. The death itself was also very anti-climatic, imo. That was the only flaw with series 3, I think.

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                                  Purgatory
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                                  i think if u know the name of the spell u can diss spell it.

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                                    Melisandrinoff
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                                    Hi Malefact! waves to everyone else Ah, it is so great to be, albeit cyberly ;-), with people who love Knightmare as much as I do 😉 Yeah, I mean, I've heard of Stonehenge, but that question was a bit random I think 😉 And I thought it was so cute when they kept trying to 'make contact' with the toad - bless! 😉 Y'know, I have no idea how I managed to wait a whole week between episodes when I watched it as a kid - I'm having a hard time waiting a day 😉

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                                      MoanaLiza
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                                      Recapping through the series guides I tell a lie. I got confused. It is not Leo's quest it's Martin's quest which is my least favourite ending/death!

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                                        Jebstar
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                                        I thought that the wall gargoyle rocked! I was wondering what was going on with the sword mis-spelling thing as I missed the earlier bit of the show. Can anyone explain?

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                                          Steve
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                                          a point on the dispelling, they seemed to just turn the first and last words around wen they 'dispellled' maybe that was the rule - in any event it was accepted(maybe because it was the right course of action to take and the supervisors wernt NIT PICKING o_O)

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