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The new KM episode is up!

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  • HobGoblinH
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    HobGoblin
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    Class has nothing to do with it but I do like my KM teams to have a certain meekness and respect for authority. The show rewarded those who followed the rules of the game - the dungeon was never a place for rebels.

    This was my problem with the geek week team; they were too familiar, too cocky, too jokey and at no point really gave the impression they gave a stuff about winning.

    Still, they got killed off so I guess the system works

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      Thanks for dropping by the forum again, GrandDizzy. It's good to see such and old member (old as in long-standing) among our current posters. If only you'd written 'stereotypically middle class', your comment might have generated a bit less controversy. But probably not.

      The children on the show were usually quite well-read and well-educated and suitable for answering questions on popular mythology and literary fiction. In contrast, most young people today are far more familiar with pop culture than classic fiction and mythology, aside from what is popularised on screen

      Though even in the '80s we had Knightmare contestants hearing "Theseus [and] Labyrinth" and thinking of David Bowie films rather than Greek mythology! I have mixed feelings about the Geek Week contestants, but ultimately there were benefits in the big fanbases that they pointed in Knightmare's direction, however fleetingly.

      If I remember rightly , David made an antechamber that had to be replaced at the last minute.

      This may be the graphic that David has recently posted on Facebook.

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        If I remember rightly , David made an antechamber that had to be replaced at the last minute.

        This may be the graphic that David has recently posted on Facebook.[/quote]

        That is beautiful. Very striking. What a shame that it wasn't used.

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          What a shame this wasn't used. Have to say, an amazing illustration and again shows David's fine work. I like the detail. Any reason why it had to be replaced at the last minute?

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            Thanks for dropping by the forum again, GrandDizzy.

            Thanks, Drassil. Great to be here. Obviously I'm not a regular, but occasionally I like to return , "entering" as a "stranger".

            This may be the graphic that David has recently posted on Facebook.

            Oh wow. Now you're talking! How sad that this vastly superior antechamber graphic wasn't used, I can only presume there weren't enough angles available for it to be used? I can think of no other logical reason. Shame.

            It's lovely to see that David Rowe still has great affection for the programme and is proud of his work (which he should be), and that he was involved with the new episode to some degree. I really hope I haven't unwittingly criticised any of his work, since I have such respect for him. But I cannot deny that to my eyes those new rooms just seemed so starkly different in style to David's classic painted Knightmare backdrops.

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              If it wasn't used, it was probably for a technical reason. They didn't have the time to force things to work and instead had to make do, in order to get things done in time.

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                Drassil
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                It was used in a manner of speaking: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UD0HtExsl4c

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                  It was used in a manner of speaking: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UD0HtExsl4c

                  I have to say I absolutely adore that video. What a lovely tribute!

                  In some respects I enjoyed this 4-minute video far more than the new episode. Loads of wonderful room illustrations + Hugo in full swing = the real essence of Knightmare IMHO. David walking around his own rooms was ace! And great to see Hugo floating over the illustrations, which was missing from the new episode. And it was also interesting. And funny too, love his Granitas joke! A really lovely video, and glad to see David reached his goal so he can put his e-book together! Yay!

                  Well I think I have figured out now what bothered me about the new episode graphics, and what the solution is. David's original illustrations in this video all look absolutely fantastic, no doubt about that. I notice the textures can be quite strong in places (eg Merlin's floor) but as standalone illustrations they are perfect and will look great in the e-book. Vivid and engaging, as they should be. However, for use on the TV show, you also need the eye of a digital effects supervisor like Robert Harris (I remember seeing him on the Kellyvision special). It's only really when a digital guy starts looking at how the chroma-key effects appear on screen that he is able to make the subtle and necessary adjustments, softening details where necessary to make it all more "background-ish", softening strong floor detail and thus allowing the performers to stand out. These are nuances that need to be done digitally as they would be almost impossible for any illustrator to anticipate in advance. Therefore, for the new episode, I think this very subtle and almost imperceptible sensibility was missing: we need not only outstanding illustrations, but for people to make adjustments with regards to being well-balanced with the live-action. David Rowe is a "legend" (to use that word colloquially). But blokes like Robert Harris also played an essential role in bringing the illustrations to the TV screen. (All my humble opinion!)

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                    Main disappointment would be the fact that it was a one-off, so we all knew there was never going to be a 'BONG!' Time out...for now! type of an ending. I also thought it was odd having another character called Sylvester in it. Don't we already have Hands? Chester or Lester might have been better.

                    As fir the team, I like Ashens and watch his stuff a lot, but I had no clue who the others were.

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                      Sorry if already posted elsewhere. Basically an intra-view with Tim Child @ Adventure X in Dec 2013. Includes some of the Geek week episode. Worth listening to for the opening music, not sure if that was used in original scenes or somebody playing around with the riff, some quality gothic keyboard there...

                      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nv8xEZBXC7U

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