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    Elita
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    Well, every time I hear McGrew's accent, I want to chew off my own hand in disgust...

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    • HStormH
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      HStorm
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      Mind you, has anyone else noticed how much McGrew looks like John Rhys-Davies? And I've never seen McGrew and Professor Arturo in the same room...

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        Emii
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        Marta was a kinda stereotypical dungeon-wench, with the old accent and the blondeness and the bosoms...

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          Emii
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          Come to think of it, there were some pretty strong male/female stereotypes in there. Female-wise all the Powers That Be ladies were young, beautiful and dumb as two short planks (Marta, Gretel, Mellisandre), whilst any ladies that were potential danger were evil, cunning and usually not very nice to look at (Aesandre, witches, etc).

          The ones that were inbetween were always incredibly confused:

          Velda - paranoid elf with asthma

          Gundrada - warrior man-beast

          Stiletta - warrior man-beast

          Mrs Grimwold - gender issues

          Elita - pain in the bum

          Any more for any more?

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            Drassil
            Senior staff
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            Interesting topic.  🙂

            I wonder, if I go to the back of my wardrobe, will I end up in Winteria talking to Aesandre?  😉 Nice name, unoriginal character.

            Ariadne is just such a stereotypical spider. Spinning webs, scuttling around on eight legs, attacking smaller creatures - Arachnid Rights groups must have been up in arms. (Perhaps Mary Whitehouse lent them the arms.)

            Ah-Wok, I think, is extreme; I always felt uncomfortable watching him, especially when his pronunciation of 'l's as 'r's actually became part of the puzzle. Although, thinking back to the Dungeoneer who asked Ah-Wok if he was from the East, perhaps not everyone saw him as an excessive stereotype.

            I suppose it was sensible to have Merlin himself as the main 'good' wizard, rather than creating a diluted 'Merlinesque' character with a different name. Archetype rather than stereotype, you could say.

            Sir Hugh de Wittless, seemed a bit stereotypical, but having his bluff gallantry as the result of a curse by Hordriss, added a nice twist to the character.

            As for dragons... although Smirkenorff was a fantastic innovation on Knightmare, I felt that Owen the dragon was less stereotypical.

            Hordriss seemed a very original character - perhaps that's why he lasted longer than any of the others.

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              Emii
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              Lord Fear was kind of stereotypical, except that he sort of overrode the whole "I look scary and just in case you forget I'm scary my name is FEAR" thing with the humour and attitude

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                HStorm
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                By your own words, Emii, you're describing a non-stereotype. Stereotypes are usually one-dimensional, and as you say, Fear had a fantastically relaxed sense of humour, which stands in contrast to his arrogance and greed, while still resting well alongside them.

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                • HStormH
                  HStormH
                  HStorm
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                  Good point about Ah Wok, Drassil. I wouldn't say he was offensive outright, but he was certainly a bit of a cheap number.

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                    Emii
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                    Sly Hands with his stupid raggety bad person act...

                    ...have we had that?

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                      HStormH
                      HStorm
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                      Wouldn't say Hands was a stereotype especially, just a cartoon figure. All right, some people would say that "cartoon figure" is just another term for stereotype, but there you are.

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                        Emii
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                        I've confused myself. I think I'll go shopping.

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                          HStorm
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                          The healthy substitute for... er, chocolate. >Ahem<  :-[  Moving swiftly on.

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                            Emii
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                            grins

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                              Skarkill
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                              Brother Mace

                              A Stereotypical Robin Hood/Firer Tuck Monk.

                              A freindly Man of god who had a weekness for strong drink & a spot of gambaling.

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                                HStorm
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                                Actually, put that way you're probably right. I overlooked him because there are times when he sounds quite deep and mysterious, but you're right  -  the humble man of God with amiable vices is quite an overused character device.

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                                  GrimaldineGrimwold
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                                  I don't mind Mace's character, since usually there was a little story going on around him. And if he's a stereotype, at least he's a pretty interesting one. Unlike some, Olaf. Ho ho ho, he's a Viking with a bad Scandinavian accent. Gosh, what a great creation.

                                  [/bitchiness]

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                                    Skarkill
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                                    I always thought that Olaf was funny.

                                    With his cries of

                                    "Ze Lootings And Ze Pilligings."

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                                      HStormH
                                      HStorm
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                                      #20

                                      Stereotypes are frequently funny, they're just not good writing.

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                                      • SkarkillS
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                                        Skarkill
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                                        #21

                                        I wasn't arguing that he wasn't a sterotype I just didn't think he was too badly writen.

                                        At lest not any worse then some of the characters in the early series.

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                                          Drassil
                                          Senior staff
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                                          The way that Skarkill said 'lovely' reminds me of a character on the comedy show The Mary Whitehouse Experience (which despite the title was nothing to do with MW, who was so kind to Knightmare in its early days) whose catchphrase was 'Lovely! Milky milky!'

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