Series 3

It just occured again, I lost all my work after going to post but tried (again) to say that all shows and programmes need to change to keep their interest and Knightmare was no different. Sometimes you need to introduce new characters and lay to rest old names and faces to move on. I haven't seen Series 3 (or beyond) since the original episodes as Challenge haven't shown beyond series 2 this year, and I wasn't able to view previous episdoes they showed in years past, as didn't have satellite at the time. I've seen bits and pieces on Youtube from older series and shows, but it's not the same as watching on television and watching a continuation as challenge have done recently, but still waiting to see beyond series 2 ! (saved draft this time)

These 2 characters were quite scary, and got the teams moving! I really liked the fact that the ogre killed a dungeoneer in series 3 because they didn't have the crayon,to draw a wellway which was laughable, what a bizzare thing to have to do, like we've got time for art work when Grimwold's around!

I'll see what I can do.

I've just re-watched this quest, for me, Martin was the most entertaining dungeoneer for the first six series' . In addition to the aforementioned quirks, his sheer impatience made him captivating, especially the tutting and sarcastic remarks. It was refreshing to see a dungeoneer take the lead as he did, and stop his advisors from dithering, which made for a real quick-fire quest. Don't get me wrong, though, if I were one of his advisors, i'd be tempted to walk him off a cliff.

Maybe it's because they look more like real skulls, with their empty eye sockets and "mouth". I was watching James' quest yesterday, the poor lad didn't have much chance of surviving that chamber with TWO of the nasties chasing him! I'd agree with that, very sinister. Up there with troll footsteps (S7 ans S8) for me, the way they get louder... or Aridane full stop!

Their score with Golgarach is 2, not 3, and so they don't get a hint to take the crayon. (Here's an ancient remark to respond to... GG, WHERE ARE YOOOOOUUUUU?!?!?) If you consider the riddles, there arguably was a clue, although it's so obscure and sub-textual that it would be difficult to connect the dots. But still... as an afterthought to his first riddle about warriors and scribes, Golgarach mentions the old saying that, "The pen is mightier than the sword!" That can be seen as encouragement to take a writing implement.

Sometimes it was empty and i remember it had a snake in once which scared Motley

Well I agree with all that, Snowcat, but this situation is slightly different because we're talking about spells rather than clue objects. Magic is always looked upon as a bonus more than an essential tool for survival (hence teams tended to celebrate when they were awarded a spell, but not when they found a clue object). I guess I'd just prefer to see spells as a way of making the job a lot easier rather than an critical means of survival. It feels more human when you can win by your own powers rather than needing mysticism coming to your aid. It's more inspiring and gives more hope to an audience being shown you can be a winner in your own right rather than needing Merlin to win it for you, if you see what I mean. So I'd have preferred it if failing to win magic meant you had to win the quest by a far tougher means, rather than making it completely impossible.

I wonder exactly why they decided to completely ignore Motley. They didn't even ask for information! And it's not like he's a hostile character or anything... Speaking of getting through auditions, the team that really stumps me is the team who told their Dungeoneer to "go through the door in front of you" in the dice room. SHE CAN'T SEE THE DOOR YOU TWATS! Yep. Absolutely. The second team you mention make me crack up- the advisor who tells her to go through that door miles away from her and around a table looks really pissed off when everyone laughs at her. It's like "If I realised it'd be this much work to get her around a table, I wouldn't have bothered coming". I'd love to know what the attitude to picking teams was. From what people have said about auditions, I guess it's at least partly to do with whether your team has a certain dynamic. I suppose it's possible to have a nice dynamic going but still be pretty crappy! Personally, I really love the awful teams, and I'd now usually much rather watch them mess up and do all sorts of ridiculous things than watch some fairly good but not quite good enough teams stumble through to Level 2 or 3 before being killed off. Nice to have a mix of different types though, I guess.

...should he have chosen the correct path, and been allowed to continue...to let the team encounter this final foe Yes, it would've been good to see a "final showdown" with Mogdred; I haven't seen series two since it was first broadcast, so I can't remember fully, but I don't think there was ever a final showdown with him other than right at the start of Series 4 where he put an end to Helen's quest.  Would've been nice to see him beaten we saw the L3 dwarf tunnels in his quest connecting room to room Yes, I didn't realise until I saw Leo's quest again that Martin's quest is the only one we see those lovely beige dwarf tunnels, and hear that creepy fuzzed-up bass note in the background (someone else on some other thread pointed out that the background note is actually different in levels 1, 2 and 3).  Wonder why that was?

That would be grand  

E's two-headed, Lol, shows you how much I know about old festus  doesnt it? I'll shuddup now Gives festus 2 big juicy bones, one for each head

^ Oh all u need to to is re-set your clock.. so it comes on at 6pm rarther than 6.05 or 5.58 LOL And your Vampire comment was wrong, But i'm to nice to point stuff like that out to ya.

Scott's Quest, after Velda just snatched the horn off him! Advisor; "Dont worry Scott, she's just in a bit of a mood!" lmao!

I'm sure that it would have been the guilotine room and the place of magic as well.  I remember during Martin's quest where Merlin appears in level 3 and tells the team that they only have 'a short way to go'. This is one piece of evidence making it unlikely for there to be any other rooms between that and the guilotine room.

Which one? I must have missed that

Personally I would say that the people who are downloading the episodes are also going to buy the dvd's if they get released. What is the real difference to saving your video's of it when it's on tv?

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its not always as simple as it looks, after all were just watching while their gotta deside right then, On the other hand they did get a lot of clues and stuff, I always wondered what would happen if they took the left door instead of the right.. i really think whatever door they take they will still get the same room