1-4 or 5-8
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What pissed me off about Virtually impossible was in the letter we got after Knightmare went off the air told us that Broadsword where doing this Virtually impossible show and i quite keen to see what i was like... i was looking forward to it... well after watching the 1st couple of episodes that was it...hated it.
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I prefered the earlier seasons (partially coz of Martin Tool n the gang) and this sounds silly but the later series lacked the crap graphics that really made up knightmare. The first series were really creative as well, the later ones were to, almost, cartooney, with lord fear and the good versus evil type plot.
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Ermm. Hello all!
Well, have to contest slightly, sir. I would hardly call the computer graphics for the earlier series 'crap'. I know you used that in a positive argument, but still - I think David Rowe's flair has always been fantastic where Knightmare was concerned, and his room creation artwork brilliant. Ok, it looks less advanced now than it did at the time, but for me, it still looks the part - the more vivid colours and slightly flatter looking and less dimensional images give me that more medieval and magical feel than the later years, which became more diemnsional - where the likes of 'Goth' and Levels '3a and 3b' of Series 8 give a much more sinister and macabre feel, which is what was created by the ever increasing intensity of the opposition and the challenges.
Other arguments would look at the technology available at the time, and also the budgeting towards a show with two years of building success rather than, for instance, series 7, when the show was a proven success and had the assurance of several great years behind it.
Yet I will agree that the earlier graphics 'made' Knightmare - the medieval look was classic, and complemented the gameplay to the highest possible extent. KaM
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One thing that I loved about the earlier series: Mildread and the Medusa.
No one was safe, not the advisors not even Treaguard! It would have been great if everyone was in danger in the later series!!!!
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Hmmmm... She was on the wall in Knightmare, but in the mythlogy she was a lady, completely off the wall
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Thats true enough....so there are more Medusas. Scary
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Hey all. Thanks for the contributions to the thread, much appreciated and enjoyed.
Well the score now is 5-3 in favour of the earlier series, and one person undecided. I think I'll call that a result unless somone votes in the next 24 hrs.
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i would go for the 5-8 series simply because of lord fear plus the tence music and the heartbeating made it even more suspenceful for example on series 6 team 4's death jeez that music and the heartbeat made it a classic death also that skull made a welcome return
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So its now 5-4 and one undecided in favour of the earlier series. Voting extended.
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The people who actually read my blabbering on this forum will probably expect me to say 1-4. Most of my tongue lashings are usually saved for the later series, and I've never found much wrong with Series 3.
But I'm really not very sure (and am hoping by the end of this post I make up my mind). In some ways, I'd like to not answer the question or daintily sidestep to my left around it. I wouldn't really put want to put Series 4 in with the first three, since it seemed to mark something of a transition. Also, Series 8 doesn't completely fit with the three before it in style.
There are definitely things I don't like about the later series. A lot of it is too linear, too based on success on certain obstacles, too obvious, too defined with respect to good v. evil, for my liking. I think a lot of the mystery of the early series was gone. I rather like the fact that we didn't know what Mogdred's motives were, whereas with Lord Fear things became a little obvious and predictable (admittedly, especially when you're no longer watching it as a 13 year old). I also thought some of the storylines in the later series were a bit lazy, although I suppose one could say "at least there were storylines". It became far too easy to get to Level 3, in my humble opinion. Hmmm, this getting rather long already, so I'll keep my other criticisms of the later series short. Eye shield. Reach wand. Ridolfo. Lack of good wall monsters. Brother Strange. Ridolfo. Too many spyglasses. Ridolfo.
Having said all that, the early series weren't perfect, and the later series has much to commend them. The graphics were better, I much preferred the later titles and theme music, and the backing music during some of the tenser moments was fantastic. Most of the puzzles themselves in the later series were gorgeous. A lot of people mention the sentimental value of the early series, but for me most of any sentimentality is centred on the latter ones, since those are the ones I firmly remember watching the first time around. I think the later series had the best complete set of characters too, especially on the Opposition side. I do think that the humour was occasionally pushed too far, but I still enjoy watching Sly and Lissard a great deal.
As I mentioned before, despite having some fantastic elements and setting up the programme in all its glory, the early series had some aspects I didn't like. Some are specific to specific series, and some of my criticisms of the later series hit Series 4 too. Hmm, enable criticism short mode again. Often slow paced. Sometimes more of a story would be nice. Supermad Treguard. Velda. Merlin taking about two minutes to cast a spell. Velda. Oh, throw in Velda and her overacting again for good measure.
I suppose we could go on forever on this type of topic. I haven't even mentioned either of the characters who make up my username here, for example. Although it's a tough decision, I'll go for 5-8 since I like doing what people don't expect.
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Hey Grimaldine thanks for the well explained views. I must say though your reply actualy led me to remeber more reasons why I preffered 1-4 to 5-8. You mention a couple of faults with series 5-8 that time had previously allowed me to forget.
Oh elloello dont start me on market or kitchens lol. Come on I mean this was Knightmare not Knightshopper. In Knightshopper teams go home with dodgy cloths due to being blindfolded. In short probably my least favorite charecter resided in the market and two of my favorites resided in Kitchens, well 3 if you count Festus.
Kitchens r us take me to MFI
Scores on the doors 6-5 in favour of the later series ( shock horror )
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I preferred Series 5-7, although I'd place Series 4 in with them 'cause it had outdoor environments. Series 3 was the first one I saw and then it changed a year later, so I didn't get a chance to get used to the indoor rooms. I did like S3, but I think the later seasons are better because of the storylines, rooms and the outdoor footage! The new characters were excellent too - Lord Fear, Sly Hands, Sidriss, Smirkenorff etc. I was disappointed when it went back to completely indoor environments in S8 (which wasn't a favourite season of mine for this reason).
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Thanks for the vote Velda I'll log that at the end. Im affraid as Knightmare viewers were opposites, I'll take indoors over outdoors, Mogdred or Malice over Lord fear and early series charecters over the later.
BRING BACK MILDREAD
So updated 7-5 in favour of series 5-8
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