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    SrWilson3S
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    Team 5 in S4 coulda got through the block and tackle even without magic but then I think they would have become Ariadnes lunch for having no sprint spell.

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      SrWilson3S
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      Thing with t1 Series 4 I mean cmon BUT It doesnt even sound like a type of spell to use in immediate danger. mad confusion there.

      But at least we both totally agree on S3 team 2 there was absolutly no obvious hint they had to dispell - meh series 3 was too harsh lol.

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        GrimaldineGrimwold
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        I don't mind S4 T1's demise as far as unfairness is concerned.

        I do agree to an extent, however, on S3 T2. They may not have been the greatest team ever, but I think they deserved a bit better than what they got. It's so hard to hear what McGrew is saying with the silly music and the accent and the fact he blabbers incoherently until they're almost out the door. Considering the amount of times teams hang around after dealing with such a challenge only to be told by Treguard to get a move on before the magic runs out/creature comes back/etc. I can see why they made a quick getaway. Pity the door wasn't on the other side of the room, so they might have had more time to get the message, or that Treguard didn't give a little hint. I can definitely imagine Pickle or Majida giving a hint. In a sense, I guess they were doomed by their own decisiveness in getting out, a little like Series 5 Team 2 who forgot the little clue from Gwendoline about the gold in their eagerness to get away from Ariadne.

        Oh, Merlin and his silly opposites. I definitely think that was unfair and downright surreal. Lock the old fool up in some stocks and throw away the key.

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          Cull
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          Thing with t1 Series 4 I mean cmon BUT It doesnt even sound like a type of spell to use in immediate danger. mad confusion there.

          Ah, but maybe the spell wasn't BUT? Maybe it was actually BUTT, and once cast something would appear and sit on Mogdred?

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            I do agree to an extent, however, on S3 T2. They may not have been the greatest team ever, but I think they deserved a bit better than what they got.

            Yeah, I didn't think they were all that bad either.  However it's worth bearing in mind that they actually got the fourth furthest out of all the teams in Series 3, only being bettered by the three that made it into level 3.  So they didn't do that badly, really, even if they were killed off for not un-DANCEing McGrew, which I don't think I'd have done either given his apparent desire to cleave them in 'twain without a second thought.  He was much less murderous when encountered by later teams 😉

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              Well S3 Team 2 when I saw I didnt even hear McGrew saying anything. Even when he did then it didnt sound too important. Treguard didnt even hint them. Slightly unfair but maybe not

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                frieza
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                I agree with the comments made about the team in series, where Merlin asked all the questions backwards- how the **** were they supposed to respond!?! And was what they said right or wrong? That was a stupid puzzle- BTW does anyone know the right answers to that set of questions?

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                  DavidNewton
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                  Someone posted the answers on a topic ages ago, and I remember that they made perfect sense when I read them. Unfortunately I've completely forgotten what they were.

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                    Malefact
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                    I think that was me. My theory was that everything was backwards with the exception of a couple of very tiny snippets. The thread should still be around somewhere.

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                      JoeGrocottJames
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                      I personall think series 8, team 3 were hard done by - the majority of the conversations, as a rule, tend to be 'automatic' in the way they turn out, i.e. if a team need to give a character an item in return for something, it's usually pretty much impossible to go wrong if they have the required item. With this team, Maldame offered no help in returning the amber globe, and they died as a result (yes, they said sidestep left instead of right, but Treguard said that they could have got 'some extra magic' from Maldame - it might well have been contrived so that they would inevitably die without the 'extra magic', which seemed to be the general concensus from previous discussions about whether the sight potions/spells were essential or not. And I can't think of anything else but a sight potion or spell that they should have got).

                      Also, series 8 team 2, again, they let the conversation work out 'automatically' and gave away the sight potion that they needed. And they got no hints about Honesty Bartram like team 3 did (first Stiletta gave them a warning, then they saw Lord Fear telling Honesty Bartram not to give the team a RISKY potion - making it obvious that the RISKY potion was needed).

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                        frieza
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                        Again, I can't help but agree. Teams 2 & 3 in series 8 were definetly the best teams that season, and it was an absolute travesty when they were killed off (esp. team 2). If they had switched the order of teams around, with teams 2 and 3 replacing say 5 or 6, then we would easily have seen a justified winner. But as for the winning team in that year...

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                          Snowcat
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                          NE1 mind if I throw in my 2p then run like hell?!?

                          Cast your minds back to the opening speech of the very first episode broadcast....

                          Didn't Treguard refer to the Keep and its dungeon as

                                                          'The Castle of Confusion'

                          ??

                          AJK

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                            FrightKnight
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                            There's confusion, and then there's the Opposites thing with Merlin.

                            I would have got one out of three right, judging by when I watched it.

                            "Who didn't have to worry about the Ides of March?" Julius Caesar is the answer.

                            I believe this was the last one of the three, so it took me that long to work it out and it would have been too late. I like the opposite "Excellent! Well done!" bit at the end (if my memory serves me correctly), but that was all. What a stupid game that one was.

                            I think Series 4 team 1 death was fair (BUT would have stopped the sword, I guess), but Series 3, team 2 was quite unfair.

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                              Fidjit
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                              ...but Series 3, team 2 was quite unfair

                              Quite so goodknight... McGrew said, "I'll do anything," the very second before they entered the next room which spelt their fate...

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                                Dan
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                                "Who didn't have to worry about the Ides of March?" Julius Caesar is the answer.

                                The other two are:

                                "Who was the daughter of Uther Pendragon?"

                                Pickle hints strongly that he doesn't really want to know who his daughter is, and they work out it should be his son, but then answer 'God' for some reason, instead of (the future King) Arthur.

                                "What happened to Cinderella's coach at midday?"

                                It doesn't take much thought to work out or guess that he actually means 'midnight', so the answer he wanted was "It disappeared", rather than the 'it appeared' they gave.  I think they got confused and thought they had to reverse their answer as well.

                                Definitely a touch unfair, but they were looking for something much more devious than necessary, I think.  They just needed to think of the opposite sense of one word in each of the questions, and answer normally.

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                                  Dunshelm
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                                  Yes that was a bit unfair. What the hell are the Aides of March anyway?! And speaking of unfair deaths - so was the death of the Scottish team at the start of series 3.

                                  They were extremely fast and efficient at rolling the dice in the first room, walking on and off the serpents tongue and answering all the riddles and not faffing about when you should say 'I challenge' and 'I command You' - and I reckon theres a conspiracy regarding their death, Gavin wouldn't just step forward like that!

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                                    JoeGrocottJames
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                                    and I reckon theres a conspiracy regarding their death, Gavin wouldn't just step forward like that!

                                    Well, on the series guide, it mentions Gavin Gillespie signing the guestbook and saying that he died on the serpent's tongue, but was let off because the next team had not yet arrived at the studios.

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                                      Dunshelm
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                                      LOL. I didnt know that.

                                      I only go by what i see in the show, but yeah he did step off hastily as if he knew where to go without being guided. Ah well...i still think he was good.

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                                        Purgatory
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                                        kinda stupid.. its not like Kmare was live.. they should had left them dead on the mouth and started up again once a team was good and ready..  don't see why they just wasted time and money letting the team play on a few more rooms they died and should have been left.. as i said  its wont made any difference in the finial cut.

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                                          GrimaldineGrimwold
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                                          And speaking of unfair deaths - so was the death of the Scottish team at the start of series 3.

                                          and I reckon theres a conspiracy regarding their death, Gavin wouldn't just step forward like that!

                                          Yep, as others have said, they'd already died once before. However, Gavin has said that it's the editing that makes it look like it's his fault on the quicksand death, so perhaps it's not his fault but the fault of one of his advisors and we just don't hear that in the final edit. As you say, it would be pretty odd for him to just take a big step forward like that.

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