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  • HStormH
    HStormH
    HStorm
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    Well, they didn't retain Malice simply because the actress (Sam Perkins I think her name was) left after one season.

    What I found refreshing about her, or at least a bit different, was her dealings were so much more ambiguous than Mogdred's. Even when Mogs was trying to turn a dungeoneer, there was never any doubt that his purposes were evil, and that it was an unequal bargain.

    With Malice, there were times when she would make a deal with a dungeoneer with no strings attached. Hardly any of those dreary "swear loyalty unto me" oaths of allegiance or other such nonsense, it was just "do me one favour and I will reward you once, and that'll be the end of it." Made her more adaptable, and a more challenging character to read.

    It's just a pity that once again the dialogue was a bit cheesy. She even directly paraphrased Hordriss on numerous occasions, and it's distracting enough when characters recycle their own dialogue from quest-to-quest let alone someone else's.

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    • HStormH
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      Hey, re-reading this thread, I've just noticed a preoccupation with arch-villains in 80's kids shows and the letter "M"!

      Mogdred, Morghanna, Malice, Megatron, Mumm-Ra, Miles Mayhem... even Ming the Merciless was brought back to be the bad guy in Defenders of the Earth. Can anyone think of any others?

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        Drassil
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        Mary Whitehouse.  ;D

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          MoanaLiza
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          #46

          Poor old Mary Whitehouse. I wouldn't class her as a villain, she did enjoy the show after watching it for the first time!

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          • SkarkillS
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            Thats True.

            But she was silly to give an oppinion on something she had never seen. She should have just said to the reporter.

            "I haven't seen the show, so can make no comment on its contense."

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            • HStormH
              HStormH
              HStorm
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              Too true, Skarky. MW's problem in my experience (that's an in-joke, folks. Y'know as in "Mary Whitehouse Experi-..." >sigh!< Never mind) was that she was reactionary as well as self-righteous. Still let's be fair to her, she did apologise once she'd actually tried WATCHING the programme. I just wish more of the so-called moral guardians of the media would realise that an informed opinion is worth a lot more than "sanitised" programme content.

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                GrimaldineGrimwold
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                I'd pick Mogdred. To be honest, I think any of those early season villains could have got really tiresome if overused, and since Mogdred was most-used, he naturally comes off badly in the cliche respect. I do think John Woodnutt played Mogga so much better than he played Merlin, although on the occasions where he does get to spellcast, he still does it incredibly slowly. I always associate him with that "Mogdred's Little Playpens" scene, which I still find just a bit scary, and was definitely frightened by when I first watched it. Yes, the pledging stuff was tepid, although I always rather enjoyed at least the scenes on the collapsing bridge.

                I think I would have tired of Morghanna very quickly. Her dialogue was pretty bad too, especially the bit about "My delight lies on the dark side". Very dire, in my opinion. And I always associate Malice with that strange scene when she's disguised and looking for that "leather bound book", which is all a bit silly. Her disguise was almost as bad as some of Hordriss' efforts.

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                  I am going to agree with you GG, Mogdred is my favourite early series Villain and I think with all his kills and scary moments then it's not surprising we all remember him as such a spook.

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                  • HStormH
                    HStormH
                    HStorm
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                    Actually, how many did Mogdred kill directly? I can only think of two off the top of my head.

                    And I still say it was Woodnutt who made the role so scary, not Mogdred himself.

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                      Well good character, good actor. I meant Woodnutt seeing as he played Mogdred, same person if you see what I mean.  🙂

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                        knightmaredave
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                        yes some interesting point here

                        i stil say that morgana was good as she kiled although very underused as was mogdred in s3 not reallyy much influence in level 2 like he had before

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