Knightmare Racist
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In many stories, the colour of the dragon determined what power it had rather than its allegiance. For instance, in one legend a red dragon could breathe fire, a white dragon could breathe acid, a black dragon could breathe poison, a blue dragon could breathe ice, and a green dragon could breathe plague.
All of the above were classed as evil, the colour of the dragons was immaterial.
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What about St. George slaying the dragon (at least I hope I'm thinking of the right legend!!). Even though this has nothing to do with St. George's day you don't go round slagging off people who celebrate it because in stories he was supposed to have slain a dragon, do you?
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In D&D, the colour determines both power and alignment (gold dragons are lawful good and can breathe fire or chlorine, crystal dragons are chaotic neutral and can breathe sharp shards, white dragons are chaotic evil (I think, certainly evil) and can breathe ice etc.). There are twenty-three types in all.
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If you read the bible it speaks about Dragons and such, (can't remember what colour) but Dragons with many heads flying around the gates of heaven and breathing fire..
So maybe Wales using the Dragon is a way of saying 'we side with the devil' ? huh?
I think not some how.
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But smirkenorf was a green dragon and he was good (actually i think neutral as he liked payment) wheras green dragons are LE in D&D.
True, but since Smirky generally needed a fee to take the Dungeoneer somewhere, he certainly can't be LG. And the reds are CE, which is worse. (well, I'd rather deal with LE than CE, LE can at least be reasoned with)
Or Smirky could actually be a copper dragon with a nasty case of verdigris.
PhoenixFlame: Dragonlance is a D&D campaign setting, that's why all the chromatic dragons are evil in it.
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I play d&d a lot and yes red dragons and indeed all chromatic dragons are evil. I cannot see how this can be traced to racism against the Welsh, the red dragon was not used to intentionally offend the Welsh, if anything it was put in by mistake. You really think the writers would go out of their way to offend the Welsh with no particular reason? as Will Lowe says Welsh people don't take offence to this, it seems you are trying to cook up trouble so I suggest you drop this and stop making stupid comments.
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claps his paws over his ears and rolls his eyes to the heavens
Good grief! Spell casting K-N-E-E-J-E-R-K...
Didn't Anne Robinson fall into a trap like this not so long ago? If me paws were big enough I'd knock ALL yer heads together!!
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This kind of setup is what causes good projects and events to get bogged down in red tape if not cancelled altogether...
This is the kind of setup that puts potential friends against each other and can ruin a damn good thing...
TO THE LOT O' YE:- Take a step back, deep breath, step forward AND LETS TRY THIS AGAIN...
Illusion: If I may ask... Kill this thread.
You wanna talk about evil/good dragons? Fair enough.
You wanna have the occasional 'barny'? Fair enough, within reason...
You wanna cut the bull' that has no place here? please?
I don't intend this as arrogance and I certainly don't want to cheesily call for a group hug. But come on.... We're better than this...
pads slowly away... there's other threads to look at...
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