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Should Series 3:Team 11 have won?

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    Billy
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    Yes, that team and Team 4 should really have won. In Martin's case, they simply got ONE RIDDLE wrong, and were doomed from then on. It was such a shame, they were doing so well until they got to Owen.

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      Pipmuk
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      Technically - tough luck - 3 out of 3 in level 3

      Personally - that was a shame - one riddle wrong and they lose.

      What i wanted to know is why Martin didnt just run forward and try to escape Morghanna's bolts. Unles they werent allowed to.

      That brings up another point - Julie's quest (say hello to the Goblins, Julie) was unfair too - they lost because they got a riddle wrong - even though they got one right, why does 100% need to be achieved in Level 2?

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        HStorm
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        In my opinion it was fair. Everyone else who got as far as Merlin's throne room that year had to get both riddles right to receive a spell. The rules may have been tough but they were fair in that at least everyone was treated equally and according to how well they did.

        Should team 11 have won? Well I do think that the linearity of needing to answer the riddle right just to survive made half of level 3 seem a little pointless. I think it should have been a bit more flexible. If they'd earned the spell it would've been easier to escape Morghanna, otherwise they should have been allowed a more complicated way of fighting her off.

        Come to that, that should also have applied to Julie's team against the goblins as well.

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          Kieran
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          There were a few teams in S3 who certainly LOOKED like champions, and certainly Team 11 were one of them, I guess.

          Sadly, S3 was a very very tough season. Well I don't know....Maybe that is a good thing.

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            Wolfshead
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            The flying spell Merlin gave them would have been good to see.

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              MoanaLiza
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              Well I couldn't really vote because I somewhat agree with both answers. Yes they did deserve to win because they were so close, but it was fair that they didn't because they did get that vital riddle wrong. Same case with Leo's team. I think if anyone might've won it would've been Ross.

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                Billy
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                Ross's team made one crucial mistake at the end, which definately contributed to their downfall (geddit?)- When the magic axe appeared, instead of guiding Ross across the ledge as quickly as possible, they just sat there for 20 seconds thinking what to do! By the time they started moving, the axe was much closer to Ross that if they'd got a move on earlier, which caused the team to panic a bit, and forget to tell Ross to stop in front of the door until it was too late. Still, they did well!

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                  SrWilson3S
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                  Deserved to win - yes

                  But this is series 3 so everythings harsh so they got done out of winning coz of 1 mistake just like leo. - those guys must fume seeing later series .

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                    Wolfshead
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                    Leo's team should have used the glory spell!

                    What would ahve happend though if they had done?

                    Also I don't think they'd have got magic from the Gargoyle, he would of probably told them which ledge to work on.

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                      HStorm
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                      I'm sure the Glory spell was a trap. If they'd cast it the 'glory' would've been Mogdred' and Mogdred's alone.

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                        Wolfshead
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                        Maybe in hindsight they wished that they'd used it, just to see what would happen.

                        Malice gave the same spell in S4 when a team found something for her in level 3.

                        I don't think that one would have been a trap.

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                          MoanaLiza
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                          I'm sure the Glory spell was a trap. If they'd cast it the 'glory' would've been Mogdred' and Mogdred's alone.

                          But then again if they were going to die, they were going to die anyway whatever they did!

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                            HStorm
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                            Not at all. They only died because they chose the wrong path in the stained glass window room. If they'd guessed right instead, casting the Glory spell would probably have gambled it all away for nothing.

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                              Fidjit
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                              Funnily enough, they fell off the same cliff as team 3 did...

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                                Dan
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                                Not at all. They only died because they chose the wrong path in the stained glass window room. If they'd guessed right instead, casting the Glory spell would probably have gambled it all away for nothing.

                                I suspect they couldn't have guessed the right path, despite Treguard saying "you'll just have to guess". They got the riddle wrong, and wouldn't have been allowed to win from that position. Series 3 was just that unforgiving, which is why it's so good - look how people get annoyed when teams are let off the hook 😉

                                I think Ross being faulted on that narrow ledge was very very harsh.

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                                  Wolfshead
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                                  So do i, but I think it happened becasue they took the left door instead of the right when they got to level 3.

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                                    HStorm
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                                    I suspect they couldn't have guessed the right path, despite Treguard saying "you'll just have to guess". They got the riddle wrong, and wouldn't have been allowed to win from that position. Series 3 was just that unforgiving, which is why it's so good.

                                    I'd consider that a flaw in S3 if that's true, as it makes it too linear, almost a fix. Also, as I mentioned before, if the death was pre-ordained from the moment they failed the riddle, that makes most of level three seem a bit pointless.

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                                      simiano
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                                      if i was an advisor id say MARTIN RUN FORWARD! and win the quest

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                                        MoanaLiza
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                                        They would've probably fallen off a the cliff that Leo fell off if they didn't get zapped imediately first.

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                                          knightmaredave
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                                          i think the way level 3was done in series 3 was very tricky, ie you had to get a spell by answeing a question, if not die along the way!!! The use of clue objetcs was spare and if they did find objetcs they were useless(i remember Mogdred saying "None of these objetcs are of use to you")

                                          They shoudl have won!!!! a damm good quest it was too!!!!

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