A good Vs Evil topic
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^ they them sections on the site a very in accurate.. over all Elita was indeed on the side of the good, Hence being the keeper of the Green Dragon,
As for the witch.. she however much like early Hordiss in neutral.. i guess season 7 she was against lord fear but at the same time never on the side of good.
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I think that she wasn't evil enough to be on the opposition, I mean she never tried to kill a dungeonere. Hordris was more unpredictable by far.
Regarding Elita, she's rude but she's not evil and since she is Smirkanauf's guardian she can't really be on the opposition.
The Gatekeeper may not serve the powers that be, but he is not evil, he showed more favour to dungeoneres than the opposition.
Sir Hugh de Witless was good, but he did not really want to help dungeoneres, he was constrained to rescue them. Infact he could end a quest by rescuing them.
How about a neutral section in the series guides?
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Lord Fear was the most evil. He may have had a sense of humour but he was always prepared to do harm (he told Lissard and Hands to go and hurt themselves often enogh!) He is also shown throughout the show with the Spy Glasses.
I don't remeber Mogdred from the first time round, but he isn't as powerful as Fear - nor was he integrated into the story. He spent to much time trying to get dungeoneers over to the darkside. Also, his magic was weaker - there was a move away from traditional "spell casting" in the later years e.g. the use of latin words, Treguard used the staff not d-i-s-m-i-s-s, even dungeoneers tended to drink potions instead.
I thought that Hordriss took over from Merlin as the Cheif of the Powers that Be - hence the presentation of the prizes.
Treguard dosen't help the teams solve individual problems in the last few series like he did in 3/4 (he used to hint about what objects to use in each room: "Raise the alarm, team" meaing use the horn) but still hinted ("What did the scroll say?") Maybe it's just that clues were more subtle; they tended to come from dialogue with Pickle or Majida.
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I think Treguard's reduced help for the teams was more about the lack of puzzles and serious obstacles in later years. He was giving hints all the time in the early years because there was a puzzle in almost every room back then. If you watch later seasons, a lot of locations were quite bare.
I agree that Mogdred wasn't as powerful as Lord Fear, and certainly wasn't as powerful as he painted himself. Most of Mogdred's threat came from his ability to intimidate with his booming laugh, but he never did all that much harm actively. Mind you, he was able to restrain Treguard with just a thought, which is something Fear could never do, so we shouldn't write Moggy off altogether.
As for who was the most evil, well that's a very subjective question. How do you quantify evil?
Morghanna's magic killed dungeoneers on both her appearances, but then does that make her particularly evil or just powerful (or for that matter does it just make the teams in question careless)?
Lillith would kill dungeoneers simply for not offering her an adequate present, but looking at her overall it's hard to say she was really evil, just petty and spiteful.
On the whole, I'm not sure anyone was particularly evil in the series - the big-hitters all bad-mouthed a lot, but what evils were they actually committing? They only seemed to be harming the dungeoneers themselves, but why shouldn't they when the dungeoneers were setting themselves up as opponents in the first place?
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I'm not sure really if Mogdred had mininions or was just part of the opposition. Fatilla said he worked for old skull face, but I'm not so sure that was Mogdred. Can't really say with Gumboil cos I havn't seen series 2 in 16 years.
When i first saw Lord Fear I thought that he was head of the opposition all the time, but had never revealed himself, after all there had been no spyblasses before.
Also I think it was interesting that one team were offered a magnifying glass by Merlin and he said that it was no ordinary magnifying glass.
It could've been a spyglass, what would it show?
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No, I doubt it was a spyglass. I remember the dungeoneer at the time suggested it was a con, and I believe him. It might have been a magic glass of some kind, but I doubt it would have been of much use.
The reason why I think Gumboil was probably in Mogdred's employ was because he was always demanding passwords and someone has to assign these things.
And when Fatilla was referring to old skull face it was defnitely Mogdred he meant. Nobody else matched that description at all at the time (unless you're suggesting that one of the skull hauntings or a catacombite was in charge), and Lord Fear hadn't been invented back then. We all like our retro-active explanations for obscurities, but it's not necessary in this case.
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lol the skull in charge.... well it did show up guarding the quest object..
Mogdred trying to get people to join the dark side was 'evil' enough.. and enjoyment on watching teams die (season 2) and a death in season 4, (something Fear never did!!!!!
As for evil...none of the characters were evil.. there actions may have been 'bad' but no one is going to site there are allow someone to take advantage of them or hurt them in anyway. Fear wanted power,
Doesn't matter of that was a spyglass or not.. there was no way the team could have used it without the eye shield.
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